Has anyone been using the Maxima ultra green nylon this season ? If so , I'm just wondering what's peoples thoughts on it ?
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My go to Leader material

 

Use nothing else!

 

Have used it for all my trout and salmon fishing for over 20 years, at times i changed to different brands of floro or mono lines but always ended up back using ultragreen. It's bulletproof stuff.

 

Guides and gillies all over the world use the stuff - it's rare for me to use anything else.

 

I find the brown knots better than the green.
I do use both,my only leader material

 

In my 60,s and have used it since I was a lad, if it ain't broke, etc.

 

I find the brown knots way better than the green, use it for salmon and seatrout night fishing in 12 + 15 lbs with no issues. Cheap as chips also. The green seems to stretch and kink easily compared to the brown

 

I've never used the brown stuff but I've never had any trouble with knots, stretch or kinks with the green stuff either - no idea where that's coming from. I have a mate who prefers the clear stuff - I think we imagine these things, they're just personal preferences.

 

Its ok. I prefer the brown on the occasions I use nylon.

 

As most above, i use it and have a spool in my pocket but the brown stuff feels softer so knots better.
No idea why brown line feels better but find the same with daiwa sensor, the brown knots so much better than the clear or yellow.

 

Used the brown for 40 years or so now, leaders for night fishing for Sea Trout & daytime Salmon, found it bombproof. Have tried the green but just from personal preference went back to brown.

 

Its all I use on clear rivers likes of the Dee. I prefer Chameleon for peaty rivers like the Deveron and Spey. Maxima really underrates the breaking strain of the nylon in my opinion. My biggest salmon ever (20lbs) was on 8lb Ultragreen - STL

 

I’ve also used both for years and alternate colour depending on whether water is clear or peaty. Maxima has stood the test of time, I never worry about leader strength when playing a fish.

It’s cheap, reliable and comes in different colours - what’s not to like.

 

15lb brown maxima for me nearly 100% of the time. On rare occasions I will drop down to 12lb brown

 

Depends on river colour. I use the clear as the brown version stands out more in gin clear water. May not impact the salmon as much as sea trout. Very safe line but it is thicker than others. So for sea trout I would drop down thickness a bit. I use 12 lb for most of my salmon fishing with a dropper. Use 15 in big water.

 

Ultra green on the business end for all my salmon fishing

 

To turn this around, given so many seem to have faith in one of the oldest still standing nylons around, why do people not use any of the other more modern leader/tippet materials?

Personally, although conversely, I use fluorocarbon as a leader for all my sea lure fishing (Bass/Polllock/Coalies/Wrasse) & CoPolymer for Trout I just can’t get the confidence to use them for Salmon/Sea Trout.
Ultimately if I lose a decent Bass I know it’s likely another will come along before the end of the Season, but every migratory fish hooked is so precious that I don’t want to be worrying about the final connection between fly line & fly.
Confidence is my raison.

 

To turn this around, given so many seem to have faith in one of the oldest still standing nylons around, why do people not use any of the other more modern leader/tippet materials?

Personally, although conversely, I use fluorocarbon as a leader for all my sea lure fishing (Bass/Polllock/Coalies/Wrasse) & CoPolymer for Trout I just can’t get the confidence to use them for Salmon/Sea Trout.
Ultimately if I lose a decent Bass I know it’s likely another will come along before the end of the Season, but every migratory fish hooked is so precious that I don’t want to be worrying about the final connection between fly line & fly.
Confidence is my raison.

I use fluoro for 80% plus of my salmon fishing tippets. I tailor each leader set up to the style of fishing I do and often set up 4 rods for fishing in different ways, each tailored to a specific job. Overall fluoro tippets are better but they do not work in every application. Maxima is OK and has some useful qualities in some areas but its a very old idea in a modern world.

 

The only advantage fluorocarbon has over Maxima (nylon) is its sink rate - about x3 faster than nylon. But that has little to no value in salmon fishing, weighted lures and sink tips do that job in running currents.

The shock strength of fluorocarbon is terrible - really poor - tho' in higher strength formats that's less of a problem.

If you want thinner diameter with better shock strength, use copolymer (nylon). But really, unless conditions are such that diameter might matter use full fat nylon, it's cheaper and indestructible.

 

I use flurocarbon for all my stillwater fishing (trout) but the price is getting ridiculous. Maxima do a decent fluro i think 180m spool I always grab a few when they are on offer, generally use the fulling mill masterclass stuff which I've found to be very good, but again pricey

 

Im the same and wouldnt use anything else but fluro for stillwater fishing. The takes drop considerably when using mono i rekon. I even use it for dries so it dosent sit on the surface as they spot it a mile off and turn away.
I like the trielene stuff in the gold box, its not the thinnest but its abit stiffer for indicator fishing to avoid tangles.

 

Well you can count me in on the Maxima Ultragreen for tippet usually 10 for summer, 12 for winter and 17 if I know there are big kings around. I keep a spool of flourocarbon tippet in my bag as a backup because it will never de-grade but I don't like to use it for the same reason. The three guides I have used all swear by Ultragreen also.

 

Maxima - £4 per 100m, 'ZxyyXnoN XP4 Nano Fluorocarbon' (designed in Germany and made in Japan, jointly developed with NASA*) - £19 per 50 meters.

Salmon anglers reasoning process: Hmmm, clearly the ZxyyXnoN XP4 is far better, quite annoying that it's 10 times more expensive but I suppose it IS better. Since I just coughed up £1000 for a rod and spend £150 per day on the fishing I suppose it would be a false economy not to buy it. Besides, must be really good if I can't pronounce it.


* not that NASA, a different one

 

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Have started using clear maxima for my trout fishing rather than fluorocarbon. Have 100 m spools from 10 to 3 lbs bs. Less prone to sudden breakages, tangles etc and not noticed any more rejections by trout. A lot cheaper as well !
Normally Maxima Chameleon for salmon.

 

If I took 2 would it increase the weight of my correspondence?

 

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Could those preferring fluorocarbon for swinging salmon flies please explain the advantage over nylon?

 

Tangled, I think there are times when clarity of leader materials really matter and as such I'll always take the opportunity to use clear tippet materials. I also like the sink rate of fluro carbons, I think it prevents a flee skating especially in glassy pool tails and keeps the flee sub surface better than Maxima. I'll state right now, I rarely if ever at all use a full fluro leader, except sometimes with full Hover and Inty. heads. I usually have a 10ft tapered mono leader or a 10ft poly as the butt part of my leader., I do like a little stretch in my leader set up.
Now also I like Seaguar and that affords me the opportunity to get a heavier breaking strain for a given diameter when I consider my tippet. However when I drop to switch rods and the smallest of flee's I consider the clarity and the smaller diameter of Seaguar for a given breaking strain a positive advantage. I can go up in diameter to gain breaking strain, or down to create more mobility for the flee with a finer diameter.
I like Fluro's inherent stiffness and its increased turn over compared to Maxima too
I'll also say this, I use small plaggy tubes most of the time now and the sink rate of fluro balances the plaggy tubes well and I find they'll fish right from the get go on touchdown.
I do concede Fluro can be awkward to knot and use, but that's down to the Angler to learn and adapt, those who don't, well it's their loss because now I've learnt how to use Seaguar or similar I don't have any problems at all. I recall similar happening when Drennan Double Strength and Diawa Super Shinobi first became available, there were those who just couldn't adapt to it!.
Before you say, no I'm not happy with the cost of Fluro at all, but there again who is?, but I'd never buy cheap just for the sake of it. Usually one 6ft tippet length will last me a day easily. A 50m spool will like as not see me out a season. One could argue good old Fog Perlon is cheap, it's thicker and certainly not clear either, but I don't see Anglers rushing to use it. I constantly hear Salmon aren't leader shy trotted out all the time, but how many of us ever try any thing different to find out. We moved away from Horse Hair and Gut casts for a reason!.
I'll take every advantage I can, when ever and however I can get it. Salmon are getting ever scarcer and harder to find so I'll do what I can to catch one.
I do also like the Hardy Mach. Fluro and I've just bought some more now it's discontinued and getting hard to get, the Fulling Mill stuff too I've found good. I've used Maxima for years n years in my Coarse Fishing and don't have a problem with it at all, my preference is however for Ultra Green over Chameleon and sorry to say I never got on with the clear!.
But for now any way, my reach for tippet will be Seaguar, well at least come next season it will any way, because I feel it just offers that bit more over a bog std. tippet material, which Maxima is!
Pedro.

 

Sound reasoning Pedro very helpful, thanks for the detailed reply 👍