[kimbo]

Pecheur.com does it

 

[Sand dancer]

As said, there are times Salmon aren't particularly leader shy, however I do consider the movement of ones flee on the leader to be of great importance!.
I'm a Seaguar fan- for now any way!, it gives me the advantage of breaking strain, is stiff enough to turn over the flee's I use, is clear!, it sinks and the diameter works in my favour for chosen breaking strains.
The lowest BS I now use is 13.6lbs on switch rods with tiny flee's in low water.My general go to Seaguar is 19lb, 23.5lbis the heaviest I need to use. I use the same knots for everything, twice through the eye 5 turn blood knot, plenty of saliva and draw steadily tight.Never had a problem with it at all.
As the Seaguar is only the tippet of my leader make up arrangement I'm paying the going rate at the moment.However I think they're taking the pee now and I'll be looking for alternatives!
Pedro.

I've started using the Fulling Mill stuff this season Pedro and have to say I'm impressed by it. It's a bit thicker than Seaguar for the same breaking strain. I've been tapering down leaders to the 10lb fulling mill stuff with small flies for sea trout and grisle and haven't had any bother. Got stuck in a tree on the far bank and was impressed how much it took to part the leader.

I got a couple of spools of the Maxima fluo and want too impressed with it. It might have been me but the knots weren't too well when I gave them a pull test. I use Fluoro a lot and used the same knot/technique with Seaguar etc without issues. I was surprised given the quality of Maxima nylon.

 

[Rennie]

Sand Dancer, I've been using the Fulling Mill World Class for a year or two now and very pleased with it, usually 10lb,12lb.15lb and 20lb. However its been changed to a newer style/formula whatever and guess what?, the price has gone up!.
I'm told the new V2 World Class stuff isn't a patch on the original stuff, as yet not tried myself yet.Why on earth things have to be "Fixed" when they're not broken is beyond me!.
Cheers, Pedro.

 

[lax0341]

Varivas Shock Leader is the best approved fluorocarbon for me. I landed a 65 pound catfish with the 20lb line this June.

 

[Piker20]

 

[Piker20]

Has seaguar improved. I know 2017-2018 a lot of posts on here and I was finding along with others unexpected breaks and failures. So bad I binned the spools I had except for the 23lb stuff.

Trilene 100% fluro is ok, not thin but doesn't unexpectedly break.
The only time I use fluro now is trout wets where I want the leader to cut the surface.

 

[Sand dancer]

Sand Dancer, I've been using the Fulling Mill World Class for a year or two now and very pleased with it, usually 10lb,12lb.15lb and 20lb. However its been changed to a newer style/formula whatever and guess what?, the price has gone up!.
I'm told the new V2 World Class stuff isn't a patch on the original stuff, as yet not tried myself yet.Why on earth things have to be "Fixed" when they're not broken is beyond me!.
Cheers, Pedro.i

Sand Dancer, I've been using the Fulling Mill World Class for a year or two now and very pleased with it, usually 10lb,12lb.15lb and 20lb. However its been changed to a newer style/formula whatever and guess what?, the price has gone up!.
I'm told the new V2 World Class stuff isn't a patch on the original stuff, as yet not tried myself yet.Why on earth things have to be "Fixed" when they're not broken is beyond me!.
Cheers, Pedro.

It's the v2 stuff I've been using Pedro. Sod's law, next time I took a brownie it will probably part!

I was surprised wit the Maxima Fluoro, I was thinking it was going to be the dogs balls.

I would be ingested to know how anyone else has got on with it?

 

[paddymc]

I have used the maxima fluoro for 3 seasons without issue in 15lb.

 

[Tangled]

I don't want to derail this entire thread, but if fluorocarbon is being used only because it's thinner than Maxima (nylon) why not use thinner nylon? Fluorocarbon isn't any stronger than nylon by diameter, it's just a function of how much it's been stretched. The main difference between fluoro and nylon is that it sinks faster.

 

[kimbo]

Thinking of trying this it's a good price and recommended

https://www.veals.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh0...002.pl?WD=fluorocarbon varivas&PN=Varivas-Hard-Top-Fluorocarbon-6443.html#SID=9

 

[big P]

I have been Maxima to but using Zpey floro for a long time now with great success and strength, if you want to try it I’ll send you one to test out PM me , Tight Lines.

 

[Jockiescott]

I don't want to derail this entire thread, but if fluorocarbon is being used only because it's thinner than Maxima (nylon) why not use thinner nylon? Fluorocarbon isn't any stronger than nylon by diameter, it's just a function of how much it's been stretched. The main difference between fluoro and nylon is that it sinks faster.

When I use 8lb maxima for hitch tubes etc. It breaks far more easily, under less pressure, than 13lb Seaguar when trying to pull flies from bushes.

I lose more flies using maxima than Seaguar at the same diameter.

 

[Tangled]

When I use 8lb maxima for hitch tubes etc. It breaks far more easily, under less pressure, than 13lb Seaguar when trying to pull flies from bushes.

Well it would wouldn't it, it's 5lb weaker!

But it's possible to get nylon of the same thickness AND breaking strain as fluorocarbon, it will just have been drawn (heated and stretched) further than standard nylon.

When monofilament plastics (both nylons and fluorocarbons) are drawn it makes them both thinner and stronger (by aligning the molecules lengthways within them). Tensile strength increases in both but brittleness also increases - ie a gradual application of load will produce a given breaking strain, but a shock load will have a different one. Fluorocarbon has much lower shock strength than the same BS of nylon.

Maxima is nylon that has not been drawn as fine as so-call super-strong nylons so it has more elasticity and less brittleness.

 

[Jockiescott]

Well it would wouldn't it, it's 5lb weaker!

But it's possible to get nylon of the same thickness AND breaking strain as fluorocarbon, it will just have been drawn (heated and stretched) further than standard nylon.

When monofilament plastics (both nylons and fluorocarbons) are drawn it makes them both thinner and stronger (by aligning the molecules lengthways within them). Tensile strength increases in both but brittleness also increases - ie a gradual application of load will produce a given breaking strain, but a shock load will have a different one. Fluorocarbon has much lower shock strength than the same BS of nylon.

Maxima is nylon that has not been down as fine as so-call super-strong nylons so it has more elasticity and less brittleness.

I misunderstood the post I quoted.

 

[simonjh98]

Seaguar soft plus for low water conditions as it is very supple. I like 10lb, 13lb or 18lb in it.

Seaguar Ace Hard for when there is water as it helps to turn over a little better as it is a bit more stiff than the soft plus range

 

[JACK POWER]

I use Seaguar on the hols and if there's a chance of the fish I've been dreaming of since I was 12. For everyday stuff I use

https://www.fishingtackleandbait.co...ndbait.co.uk/en/Tubertini-Gorilla-UC4-Fluorocarbon-Line-100m-Spool/m-39951.aspx

and find it reliable to the point that I use it, successfully, in the 12lb version for spent gnat dry fly fishing. It is far less expensive than Seaguar

This knot is worth adding to your repertoire if you use fluorocarbon ...