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Might as well suspend fishing in current conditions surely, if you managed to hook a fish what chances of them going back alive with reduced oxygen levels in the water , dire times
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What's the extent of this bloom? I'm told that it's unfishable at Goodrich.
What's the extent of this bloom? I'm told that it's unfishable at Goodrich.
Mate fished Goodrich last night said it was like soup

Heavy bloom I see I was at Goodrich last night perfect height but like soup
Has anyone tested dissolved Oxygen levels?
There was a bit of a fracas last year when Worcester kept their water open ( for Coarse Fish) during the heatwave,insisting their testing showed enough.
In light of the reports above and advice from more experienced salmon fishers than me and moreover in consideration for the fish welfare I’ve decided not to fish (Cadora backs) tomorrow. It’s a tough call because fishing booked and paid for and a day taken off work (self employed) and was looking forward to nothing more than getting the fly rod out and being by the river. Sad times and a poor time for me to resume salmon fishing recently. However all the above outweighed massively by the sorry state of our beloved river Wye.
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In light of the reports above and advice from more experienced salmon fishers than me and moreover in consideration for the fish welfare I’ve decided not to fish (Cadora backs) tomorrow. It’s a tough call because fishing booked and paid for and a day taken off work (self employed) and was looking forward to nothing more than getting the fly rod out and being by the river. Sad times and a poor time for me to resume salmon fishing recently. However all the above outweighed massively by the sorry state of our beloved river Wye.
But it’s the right decision Mark you would have regretted the the minute you got out of the car and looked at the river, hopefully it will be a short term bloom and burns itself out and we get back to fishing a river you can see into
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the river was certainly looking a bit grim in Hereford today
It appears that he welsh government have voted against this


maybe they will be bringing something stronger to the table?

In the above I note -

The Environment Agency will generally prioritise giving advice and guidance before taking enforcement action. They direct land managers to guidance and grants, and schemes like the Catchment Sensitive Farming partnership.

The Environment Agency may still escalate and impose civil or criminal sanctions if appropriate, in particular if advice, guidance and warning letters do not achieve the necessary changes in behaviours.
Does anyone know what temperature the river is up to? I read with concern it was already at 16 on this thread and the forecast and lack of rain is a little concerning... Very interesting that with the drought last year the Wye didn't bloom. Rather points the finger at Agricultural pollution which has been washed in to the river when we had the rain, rather than the constant drip/flood of WW sewage?
Does anyone know what temperature the river is up to? I read with concern it was already at 16 on this thread and the forecast and lack of rain is a little concerning... Very interesting that with the drought last year the Wye didn't bloom. Rather points the finger at Agricultural pollution which has been washed in to the river when we had the rain, rather than the constant drip/flood of WW sewage?
Lower Wye did bloom last year , temps Nathan recorded early this week were 16.
The current bloom started in the Lugg but subsequently the upper river then joined forces a few days later, Pete sent me pics of the Ithon on Monday and that looked like it had a bloom , by Wednesday the upper river was “ in bloom “ , last years bloom burnt out after a while looking at the air temps and levels of UV we can only hope this bloom does the same
We are doing the bbq at the Casting Clinic at Whitney tomorrow I will post some pics of the river up there
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Does anyone know what temperature the river is up to? I read with concern it was already at 16 on this thread and the forecast and lack of rain is a little concerning... Very interesting that with the drought last year the Wye didn't bloom. Rather points the finger at Agricultural pollution which has been washed in to the river when we had the rain, rather than the constant drip/flood of WW sewage?
I've looked back at my phosphate results for last year at Ross on Wye during the hot period and found that between 5th July until 25th Oct I only recorded phosphate 3 times. Every other week, 14 times, I recorded zero.
My unscientific perception of this is simple, no rain means no crap is washed off the land or out of the sewage plants on overflow. No phosphate or fertiliser if you like means no algal bloom, so the River remains clear.

There was some algal bloom evident early in the period in July and again in August after thunderstorms but the rest of the time the Wye was mainly clear at Ross.
The water temperature in the Wye is currently 17 degrees but last year during that period of clear water the water temperature varied from 17 deg up to 23 deg during mid July and down again to 10 deg in mid October.

So it looks like we might be at the start of a similar period now. The thunderstorms of a week or so past certainly did not help in my opinion.
What we need now is the right sort of rain.
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The cold nights are saving the river at the moment god help us if the nights get warm the river temp will shoot up
The sonde at Ross shows the water temperature over the last 24 hours has varied between about 15.8 and 17.7 centigrade depending on time of day/night.

Dissolved oxygen levels in the same period range from 10.8 to 15, well above the danger levels of 6. But there again we are only at the end of May.

As for the algae bloom, the chorophyll count peaked at 76 on the 23rd May and has steadily reduced over the last couple of days to currently 22 suggesting it may be slowly burning itself out. But for that it needs to get back to very near zero.

As Ourtrev mentions, we need the right sort of rain. No so heavy that it will wash more of the manure/slurry off the farmers fields, or cause operation of the combined sewer overflows. But what are the chances of that?
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The sonde at Ross shows the water temperature over the last 24 hours has varied between about 15.8 and 17.7 centigrade depending on time of day/night.

Dissolved oxygen levels in the same period range from 10.8 to 15, well above the danger levels of 6. But there again we are only at the end of May.

As for the algae bloom, the chorophyll count peaked at 76 on the 23rd May and has steadily reduced over the last couple of days to currently 22 suggesting it may be slowly burning itself out. But for that it needs to get back to very near zero.

As Ourtrev mentions, we need the right sort of rain. No so heavy that it will wash more of the manure/slurry off the farmers fields, or cause operation of the combined sewer overflows. But what are the chances of that?
Is there a link to the Sonde readings Richard
Does anyone know what temperature the river is up to? I read with concern it was already at 16 on this thread and the forecast and lack of rain is a little concerning... Very interesting that with the drought last year the Wye didn't bloom. Rather points the finger at Agricultural pollution which has been washed in to the river when we had the rain, rather than the constant drip/flood of WW sewage?
lower river did have an algal bloom last year
The sonde at Ross shows the water temperature over the last 24 hours has varied between about 15.8 and 17.7 centigrade depending on time of day/night.

Dissolved oxygen levels in the same period range from 10.8 to 15, well above the danger levels of 6. But there again we are only at the end of May.

As for the algae bloom, the chorophyll count peaked at 76 on the 23rd May and has steadily reduced over the last couple of days to currently 22 suggesting it may be slowly burning itself out. But for that it needs to get back to very near zero.

As Ourtrev mentions, we need the right sort of rain. No so heavy that it will wash more of the manure/slurry off the farmers fields, or cause operation of the combined sewer overflows. But what are the chances of that?
It seems the chlorophyll count dropping has improved clarity , let’s hope it keeps dropping
A first hand experience and some sobering words.

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2023 Sonde link now on the WSA Website

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Taylor Wimpey prosecuted for river pollution
Housebuilding company Taylor Wimpey has been fined £488,772 after failing to implement appropriate measures to prevent multiple pollution incidents which impacted the River Llwyd and its tributaries in Pontypool.
Pollution offences caused by illegal water discharge activities occurred at the Edlogan Wharf site, situated along Bevan Road, Sebastopol, Pontypool between January and October 2021.
Inspections revealed that the pollutant on each occasion was caused by water run-off from the site, which had been contaminated with silt.
Susan Lenthall, our local Environment Officer, said:
"Environmental regulations are in place to help protect people, wildlife, our rivers, and land.
"The construction industry has a duty of care to the communities in which they operate, to ensure the correct controls and safeguards are in place in order to prevent incidents such as these occurring."
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