[punta]

Dropshot weights are another pencil shaped weight.

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[JamesMeredith]

Dropshot weights are another pencil shaped weight.

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These are somewhat thicker and shorter than the old pencil leads I remember

RichardGW I will try one of those plastic things, thanks.

 

[peterchilton]

I have used bouncing betty type weights for devons, clipping them onto the back of the swivel that is between braid and mono. Severn is a foot up at shrewsbury.

 

[JamesMeredith]

The Severn is up to 1m now and rising, though pretty clear and very cold. It is also now littered with a some of my weights without losing single devon (which is good, because I only had a single devon with me) , which is the power of the paternoster rig. The 'plastic tubes with a weight in the end' that I bought last week were not heavy enough to fish this height of river. I think the classic pencil lead would be good for this height, if I could find a source. I resorted instead to ball shot on a hair pin. Fishing with the heavy ironmongery like this is hard work! Left after a couple of hours having depleted my meagre stores of cannon ball sized weights, and my enthusiasm tbh. I guess it will be well worth a fish when this runs off, but I'm done until then. Report of a salmon caught by a course angler below Shrewsbury, although it could be a kelt of course.

 

[JamesMeredith]

There is a plan afoot to abstract less from lake Vyrnwy, send more water down the River Vyrnwy and abstract it from the lower Severn... all very concerning

‘Very sensitive subject’: plan to take Welsh water for London stirs painful memories

‘Drowning’ of village of Capel Celyn to provide water to Liverpool in the 60s remains an emotive issue

www.theguardian.com

 

[Richardgw]

There is a plan afoot to abstract less from lake Vyrnwy, send more water down the River Vyrnwy and abstract it from the lower Severn... all very concerning

‘Very sensitive subject’: plan to take Welsh water for London stirs painful memories

‘Drowning’ of village of Capel Celyn to provide water to Liverpool in the 60s remains an emotive issue

www.theguardian.com

Why is that concerning? From what I can see it would help the river through the summer with increased flows down most of it and lower water temperatures particularly if the releases are of cooler water from the bottom of the reservoir.

The Vyrnwy is the major spawning tributary for the river's large springers. Also a significant number of fish stay in the tidal reaches between Tewksbury and Gloucester until the autumn rains, and additional cooler water during the summer, even if it is then abstracted at Gloucester, may encourage these further into the river during the fishing season.

 

[JamesMeredith]

Why is that concerning? From what I can see it would help the river through the summer with increased flows down most of it and lower water temperatures particularly if the releases are of cooler water from the bottom of the reservoir.

The Vyrnwy is the major spawning tributary for the river's large springers. Also a significant number of fish stay in the tidal reaches between Tewksbury and Gloucester until the autumn rains, and additional cooler water during the summer, even if it is then abstracted at Gloucester, may encourage these further into the river during the fishing season.

Simplistically yes

But there are a lot of 'what ifs' for me. How is Liverpool making up the shortfall? From the Dee?

That dam water, is it from the top or bottom of the lake? What is the comparative temperature and oxygen content? What does that do to fish eggs? What does that do to the fishes behaviour? I see risk all over this.

 

[JamesMeredith]

River is down to 1.4m at Welsh bridge guage. Still a bit high for me for Shrewsbury weir. Until the water warms up I think 1m is probably my limit. I feel that you need to get down to the fish at this temperature, and that is pretty difficult in the weir pool at 1m. I'm interested if the old hands agree?

I was expecting to be back on the river by the weekend, but the forecast on the guage is for it to start rising? I don't see why since the upstream guages are falling? My rule of thumb used to be that whatever is happening at Buttington will happen in Shrewsbury in 2 days...I think.

 

[punta]

I was hoping to get out Friday - not looking good

 

[goodwin8288]

River is down to 1.4m at Welsh bridge guage. Still a bit high for me for Shrewsbury weir. Until the water warms up I think 1m is probably my limit. I feel that you need to get down to the fish at this temperature, and that is pretty difficult in the weir pool at 1m. I'm interested if the old hands agree?

I was expecting to be back on the river by the weekend, but the forecast on the guage is for it to start rising? I don't see why since the upstream guages are falling? My rule of thumb used to be that whatever is happening at Buttington will happen in Shrewsbury in 2 days...I think.

When I used to fish the weir I think we used to roughly use 1m at welsh bridge as a decent height or when the water is lapping onto the lower concrete step

 

[peterchilton]

When I used to fish the weir I think we used to roughly use 1m at welsh bridge as a decent height or when the water is lapping onto the lower concrete step

Thats exactly it

 

[peterchilton]

River is down to 1.4m at Welsh bridge guage. Still a bit high for me for Shrewsbury weir. Until the water warms up I think 1m is probably my limit. I feel that you need to get down to the fish at this temperature, and that is pretty difficult in the weir pool at 1m. I'm interested if the old hands agree?

I was expecting to be back on the river by the weekend, but the forecast on the guage is for it to start rising? I don't see why since the upstream guages are falling? My rule of thumb used to be that whatever is happening at Buttington will happen in Shrewsbury in 2 days...I think.

maybe they are looking at the weather forecast?

 

[Richardgw]

I also liked it running at the top of the concrete or just below. But going back to the 60s and 70s I can remember anglers shoulder to shoulder on the weir concrete wading in 6 inches or more of water and they wouldn’t have been there if there wasn’t a chance. All spinning. It always was a good high water place so if you have nothing else on it is always worth a chuck.
Also at the bottom of the weir stretch is the ‘Flats’, as it was known, where the two streams came together below the island, another good place in high water. Wooden devons in those days of course, bottom bounced held down by an ounce or two of lead.

 

[peterchilton]

and then on down to Underdale, BAA water and my first experience of 'combat fishing'

 

[JamesMeredith]

maybe they are looking at the weather forecast?

Well it is on the way up, but their forecast was for a lot more. No fishing at the weir for a little while methinks. I think stillwater might be calling...

 

[peterchilton]

its torrential stormy rain in mid wales atm, much of the same on thursday and friday then maybe even some snow on sunday, lets see what its like on monday ;-)

 

[goodwin8288]

I also liked it running at the top of the concrete or just below. But going back to the 60s and 70s I can remember anglers shoulder to shoulder on the weir concrete wading in 6 inches or more of water and they wouldn’t have been there if there wasn’t a chance. All spinning. It always was a good high water place so if you have nothing else on it is always worth a chuck.
Also at the bottom of the weir stretch is the ‘Flats’, as it was known, where the two streams came together below the island, another good place in high water. Wooden devons in those days of course, bottom bounced held down by an ounce or two of lead.

Also the run Infront of the island used to be good apparently and between the end of the road (Sydney Avenue) and the underdale stretch there was a ford that was good so I'm told by my dad

 

[goodwin8288]

and then on down to Underdale, BAA water and my first experience of 'combat fishing'

We went for a look at the underdale water a few years ago as we (me and my dad) used to fish it me in the 80s dad in the 70s 80s and dad commented how much it had changed from when we used to go

 

[JamesMeredith]

I heard that the flow through the 'boat gutter' used to be completely different back then. But I wasnt there and I can't say which side of the island the fish run now

 

[goodwin8288]

I heard that the flow through the 'boat gutter' used to be completely different back then. But I wasnt there and I can't say which side of the island the fish run now

I would say that the fish would run in front of the island nearest to you as it has the flow and depth there is also a good run for fishing the fly about 100;150 yds down from the weir get in opposite the culvert wade about a third out and fish down to the island you need to hit the far bank as that is where the run is A guy that was on this forum got given this info about 8yrs ago by the bailiff and had a 20lb fish there will be a picture and thread about it on here somewhere !!