[Grassy_Knollington]

If the purpose and end result is a restored and functional ecological landscape, what is your problem? We're at a point where big problems need actual solutions. Are there viable alternatives?

I can't speak for Horsbrugh, but personally:

- The definition of 'restored' tends to be in the eye of the beholder, ditto 'functional'.
- There is never enough consideration given to the complex interactions between different reintroduced species.
- The end result is just more human meddling in a different, more sensitively presented form.
- There us too much sales pitch and not enough evidence,e.g. 'Salmon are essential for survival of the forest' - no they're not. Most ancient forest doesn't surround Salmon rivers or spawning sites
- The end result is that these schemes are often promoted as one size fits all greenwash to obscure other significant problems and as a vehicle to get on the sponsor's personal hobby horse.

No problem with the right tree in the right places.

 

[Grassy_Knollington]

Perhaps, but forests are essential to salmon, please don't get hung up on the the other bit, yes there are exceptions, but in the main all the worlds greatest salmon producing rivers have a fundamental connection with forests, because they create the diversity of habitats and resources that a salmon needs to be abundant.

Iceland? Northern Norway? The Karlovka?

I'm all for the tree planting, just find it hard not to get hung up on the other stuff - not that my view matters in any way.

 

[Grassy_Knollington]

Tana? Altaelva? You've heard of the boreal forest?

There's loads of rivers with forests in the upper reaches, I was just pointing out that isn't the natural state of some of our more productive Salmon rivers i.e. Trees are not a necessity for a healthy Salmon habitat.

In general, trees are a good thing, lets have more native species by the river bank, lets not draw tenuous causal links to suit any one agenda and definitely lets no go a planting trees willy nilly in upland areas where they shouldn't be.