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Canada is going to legalise pot. Smart move for many reasons in my opinion. What do you think?

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Yep taxed to the point where black market is way cheaper same as cigs

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Yea, thats the way i would see it going. Unless its sold at the going rate or just over itl be a non starter as the black market will still be viable.
You can put value on the fact its tested and conforms to certain regs but only so much.


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Only way I could see it working would be to undercut the market and put the criminals out of business. Quite easy when you look at the mark-up made between the growers and the user's now. Can't see it happening though.

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A cursory glance back in time to the opium wars will show the British establishment as a ruthlessly efficient drug dealer and their forebears should have no problem picking up the reins.
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Wonder what prices are like across the pond compared to the black market.

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Wonder what prices are like across the pond compared to the black market.

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Though, as noted above, I am not a user I have friends who are. The profits on illegal drugs, weed in particular, are high enough that the dealers, able entrepreneurs as they are, can and do undercut the
licensed retail outlets. As a previous poster noted from his trip to BC, the customers of the legal shops are older people, including my 87 year old mother in law and her friends 🙄, and they tend to be buying edibles for fun and cannabis oil for self medicating arthritis etc..
Though, as noted above, I am not a user I have friends who are. The profits on illegal drugs, weed in particular, are high enough that the dealers, able entrepreneurs as they are, can and do undercut the
licensed retail outlets. As a previous poster noted from his trip to BC, the customers of the legal shops are older people, including my 87 year old mother in law and her friends , and they tend to be buying edibles for fun and cannabis oil for self medicating arthritis etc..
Thankyou for the info.
Its not something i would have expected the older ones to go for if im honest.

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There are lots of reasons why lives get ruined by addiction. The propensity toward troublesome addiction is the crucial element. I think its about 10-20% give or take. Some are exposed to it all, some just the legal ones. Opportunity to escalate is probably down to personal circumstances and boundaries.
Yeah I kinda discounted this for years and put it down to just a bad decision but I have never felt comfortable in my own skin despite a good upbringing.
We are way too deep into the populations requirement to depend on the state for that.
I can only say that the government drug methadone never worked for me and the stuff was more brutal than the street gear to get off.
I don’t think there is any ambition to take it over, a lot of money is made on the sidelines of drugs being illegal.
Lol I know what you mean as it’s like anything else such as arms this stuff will go right to the top imo.
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We are way too deep into the populations requirement to depend on the state for that.
It’s quite embarrassing how someone like myself who made bad decisions and acted poorly in my opinion I seem to have been given better health care with less wait than someone like my Uncle who despite being an upstanding member of society and made good decisions had to wait a year for a cancer op and so your point about the state is a valid one
Given the recent unfounded trend for the normalisation of powerful psychedelics with the notion that they are harmless I would encourage folk to watch this video?
Sure the guy is seemingly harmless in persona, albeit that can change on a dime but I ask anyone to view this guy and still think that these powerful hallucinogens don’t have any negative side effects.
I don’t want to influence anyone but the thousand yard stare on this one is perhaps beyond repair
I’ve always had a high tolerance for stuff and yet at the same time I’ve always put a price on my life as ridiculous as that sounds? Straight off the bat in leaving school I knew three popular lads who were changed beyond recognition from Acid and mushrooms and all three cases just a few trips. The worst one was approached by police in a three story window in Hebden Bridge despite his freaking out the police caused ultimately for him to fall to the pavement and somehow he survived multiple brain bleeds but was transformed into an 80 yr old man.
The super strong skunks can also cause psychosis particularly in teenage minds and for this reason I don’t see it as benign but that is just me I guess.
Wonder what prices are like across the pond compared to the black market.

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I'm not up to date because I don't purchase any but ..................... The commercial dispensaries have products broken down to the point of labeling almost like a chemists analysis with regard to potency. The plants are grown indoors using commercially produced chemical compounds for 'fertilizer' which I consider akin to the GMO and antibiotic / hormone driven factory farm and veg industry.

When the first few dispensaries opened the stuff ran between $18 and $28 / gram translating to roughly $504 to $784 per ounce :oops:

I haven't any idea what home grown may sell for but will place a guess at $340 - $400 / ounce depending on the skill of the producer. Citizens are allowed to grow their own up to a certain number of plants and I don't notice any drastic change in peoples behavior since legalization.

Addressing all the gateway theories and the "I know people who are burned out from drugs" posts ..................... People and their brains are all different and in America there are about 335,000,000 brains. I happen to have scored a good one (brain) that has handled everything I threw at it and there seem to be zero detrimental or residual effects. Other people aren't the same and that isn't my problem. Drug addiction is just that, alcohol addiction is the same thing it's just a choice for some which thing to self administer.
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I'm not up to date because I don't purchase any but ..................... The commercial dispensaries have products broken down to the point of labeling almost like a chemists analysis with regard to potency. The plants are grown indoors using commercially produced chemical compounds for 'fertilizer' which I consider akin to the GMO and antibiotic / hormone driven factory farm and veg industry.

When the first few dispensaries opened the stuff ran between $18 and $28 / gram translating to roughly $504 to $784 per ounce :oops:

I haven't any idea what home grown may sell for but will place a guess at $340 - $400 / ounce depending on the skill of the producer. Citizens are allowed to grow their own up to a certain number of plants and I don't notice any drastic change in peoples behavior since legalization.

Addressing all the gateway theories and the "I know people who are burned out from drugs" posts ..................... People and their brains are all different and in America there are about 335,000,000 brains. I happen to have scored a good one (brain) that has handled everything I threw at it and there seem to be zero detrimental or residual effects. Other people aren't the same and that isn't my problem. Drug addiction is just that, alcohol addiction is the same thing it's just a choice for some which thing to self administer.
Serious money that. After several Gin and Tonics it’s probably worth mentioning that Alcohol is the only drug where people feel the need to have an excuse for not partaking? Be it Weed or Heroin I don’t recall anyone ever saying “just have the one heroin or spliff” in the same was they would drink. Congrats on scoring a good brain lol. I love that
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Something else worth the mention would be that I think we've all seen someone pound down pint after pint or throw back shot after shot until they are nearly or fully incapacitated. Maybe I never ran with the right crowd but I don't remember anyone chain smoking joints :unsure: I have known people (a few) that would smoke some pot soon as they woke up in the morning and I never really understood that. I didn't ask why they did it so it's possible there was some reason unbeknownst to me that to them made sense. None of those persons were especially successful but they were all multi skilled albeit quite stoned regularly.
Something else worth the mention would be that I think we've all seen someone pound down pint after pint or throw back shot after shot until they are nearly or fully incapacitated. Maybe I never ran with the right crowd but I don't remember anyone chain smoking joints :unsure: I have known people (a few) that would smoke some pot soon as they woke up in the morning and I never really understood that. I didn't ask why they did it so it's possible there was some reason unbeknownst to me that to them made sense. None of those persons were especially successful but they were all multi skilled albeit quite stoned regularly.
I used to be like that with beer etc, all or nothing but happy with it and not one to look for trouble (although it often seemed to find me drunk or sober ). I cant say ive got an addictive personality though and never really have.
Dont drink at all these days but thats because getting older im rough for days after and the risk vs rewward just dosent make sense anymore. Im too busy to spend the day in bed and cant be botherd with the trouble that comes with people that cant hold their beer in the local bars.

If im honest, my favourate nights were in the all night raves where alcohol wasnt served and extacy was the order of the night so it was rare there was any trouble. Thats when i was young though and wouldnt take the risk these days.

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When it comes to drink or anything else I'm one who may go months and months without even having a buzz at all. You're likely correct about age because I just don't care to be in an altered state unless somehow the day seems right for it. Being right for it means I've nothing to do but tinker around the home or property without the need to leave or for anyone to be coming round.
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Something else worth the mention would be that I think we've all seen someone pound down pint after pint or throw back shot after shot until they are nearly or fully incapacitated. Maybe I never ran with the right crowd but I don't remember anyone chain smoking joints :unsure: I have known people (a few) that would smoke some pot soon as they woke up in the morning and I never really understood that. I didn't ask why they did it so it's possible there was some reason unbeknownst to me that to them made sense. None of those persons were especially successful but they were all multi skilled albeit quite stoned regularly.
I don’t recall anyone ever being violent off weed either?
The drug makes one hyper self critical which is a good thing as it checks behaviour unlike alcohol
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I used to be like that with beer etc, all or nothing but happy with it and not one to look for trouble (although it often seemed to find me drunk or sober ). I cant say ive got an addictive personality though and never really have.
Dont drink at all these days but thats because getting older im rough for days after and the risk vs rewward just dosent make sense anymore. Im too busy to spend the day in bed and cant be botherd with the trouble that comes with people that cant hold their beer in the local bars.

If im honest, my favourate nights were in the all night raves where alcohol wasnt served and extacy was the order of the night so it was rare there was any trouble. Thats when i was young though and wouldnt take the risk these days.

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I have had one serious flirtation with alcohol in an alcoholic sense and it scared me how fast I went from a quarter bottle of Whiskey to a full bottle inc a litre at times by myself and keep down a job? The times where I had alcohol poisoning though were not funny and it put me off whiskey for life.
I have quite a tolerance but I don’t wanna be that person at the party who’s had too much
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I have had one serious flirtation with alcohol in an alcoholic sense and it scared me how fast I went from a quarter bottle of Whiskey to a full bottle inc a litre at times by myself and keep down a job? The times where I had alcohol poisoning though were not funny and it put me off whiskey for life.
I have quite a tolerance but I don’t wanna be that person at the party who’s had too much
The smell of it knocks me sick after over indulging on the single malt then talking to hewy on the big white phone all night while sprawled on the bathroom floor

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