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Canada is going to legalise pot. Smart move for many reasons in my opinion. What do you think?

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I’ve noticed a similar psy op with psychedelics with the notion that they safe and something good 🙄 lol I’ve known three lads who never were right again after one trip
No I’m not suggesting.
Im telling you exactly what happened and yes it did cure an inoperable tumour.
You can use the term miracle if you like. Its certainly thought of that way by his family.
Nothing worth adding or debating to that. Best wishes to your friend.
Harry
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Nothing worth adding or debating to that. Best wishes to your friend.
Harry
Thanks.
He’s not a friend. Just a local lad that I know.
The docs thought it was a miracle too.
Nothing worth adding or debating to that. Best wishes to your friend.
Harry
Although I do have a friend who unfortunately has leukaemia and is self medicating with cannabis oil with great success so far.
He seems to be living a normal life.
Hopefully it continues.
The CBD the non psychoactive chemical in cannabis is great for repairing muscle damage and pain relief. Which is why it’s becoming popular in the states with athletes.
But it’s the THC which is psychoactive that seems to have to cancer beating properties.
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I think we need to make it clear medical cannabis is not the problem, the problem is filling people with another addictive drug that is harmful both to the individual and to society. Evidence from Canada shows it didn't stop illegal street dealing or crime, indeed it seems to raised crime, we don't need that. I wonder what the police figures are in the UK for drug driving offences and are they rising or not?
Not really my sort of thing but wouldnt mind the benefits of any extra tax revenue etc.
You only have to head into any town center at night on a weekend to see how much chaos alcohol causes and no one questions wether that should be legal or not.
Cannabis is always going to be around wether its legal or not so why not regulate it, tax it and if it can help medicaly then great.
Most of my friends that use it treat it no diffrent than a bottle of wine on a friday after work. They may empty the fridge and forget where theyve put their keys but are criminilised for it.



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The trouble with cannabis is that breeders have worked hard to increase its potency as a of gaining market share. The innocent high now has a good chance of causing psychosis which was not an original problem hence discussion about upgrading its classification. If it was legalised, I’d imaging a variety providing a ‘safe’ strength would be used. The market forces would mean that the stronger stuff would still be sold on the black market. As a result you’d probably see an increased general use and increased problems (eg more tobacco related issues like lung cancer) instead of an overall improvement.
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Medicinal Cannabis is very different to weed/skunk/**** or whatever the street name is and non medicinal cannabis is addictive and it can lead to addiction of other drugs too, seen the effects first hand, bad enough dodging drunk drivers without adding to the chaos on the streets.
Where have you gotten that cannabis is addictive, I literally know dozens of people of all age groups that partake and there is not one of them I've looked at and thought he or she may be an addict.
It was a gateway drug for me, leading to smack ultimately. I realise this isn't the case for everyone but I wouldn't wanna be responsible for introducing it to someone which is barometer
Explain to me how it was a gateway drug for you, explain how if you'd never took cannabis you would not of become a user of other substances.
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There’s more than one stoner posting on this thread.
F*ckwits.🫣😂
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There’s more than one stoner posting on this thread.
F*ckwits.🫣😂
Hey man, chill.
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Where have you gotten that cannabis is addictive, I literally know dozens of people of all age groups that partake and there is not one of them I've looked at and thought he or she may be an addict.
I had to attend a funeral of a paranoid schizophrenic cannabis addict who used to work for me, I know it is addictive, our old drummer has been addicted to it for 50 years, a shadow of a man now in terrible health. An old pal died from from lung complications, his death certificate linked his passing to cannabis smoking, would he have died from smoking tobacco products, well the doctors said the way cannabis is inhaled is more harmful than normal sucking on a cigarette.
Do I want to see another harmful substance on the streets that might cause more drug gang problems, deaths, because that seems to follow drugs right around the world. The Netherlands took a liberal stance and now have a massive problem with drug associated crime, it seems Canada has had similar problems, but you seem to think it's ok?
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Dogs get paranoid from passive cannabis smoking too :ROFLMAO:
There’s more than one stoner posting on this thread.
F*ckwits.🫣😂
Harsh ibm, harsh. Why not just roll yourself a fat one and chillax, then maybe head down to the servo and get some munchies around 10.30? Do you the world of good :) ;)

Truth is it's a bit of a mystery why any government would be opposed to decriminalisation/legalisation once they've got their heads around the (impotent) subversion aspect of letting their population tune out.

After all, surely much better for them to have half the population lolling around on the couch giggling at crap TV than blaming the 'leaders' for the citizens inability to heat their house (let alone buy one)
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Harsh ibm, harsh. Why not just roll yourself a fat one and chillax, then maybe head down to the servo and get some munchies around 10.30? Do you the world of good :) ;)

Truth is it's a bit of a mystery why any government would be opposed to decriminalisation/legalisation once they've got their heads around the (impotent) subversion aspect of letting their population tune out.

After all, surely much better for them to have half the population lolling around on the couch giggling at crap TV than blaming the 'leaders' for the citizens inability to heat their house (let alone buy one)
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I had to attend a funeral of a paranoid schizophrenic cannabis addict who used to work for me, I know it is addictive, our old drummer has been addicted to it for 50 years, a shadow of a man now in terrible health. An old pal died from from lung complications, his death certificate linked his passing to cannabis smoking, would he have died from smoking tobacco products, well the doctors said the way cannabis is inhaled is more harmful than normal sucking on a cigarette.
Do I want to see another harmful substance on the streets that might cause more drug gang problems, deaths, because that seems to follow drugs right around the world. The Netherlands took a liberal stance and now have a massive problem with drug associated crime, it seems Canada has had similar problems, but you seem to think it's ok?
Your schizophrenic pal most likely used it as self medication and your drummer 50 years a stoner that probably puts him in his seventies most likely is a shadow of his former twenty year old self. How many people have youcame across in your lifetime who had issues with the drink.
They gave my old man 6 months when he was diagnosed with cancer and he made the two year mark when he passed away just over 3 weeks ago ☹ as soon as he was diagnosed we looked into cannabis oil and managed to source some, did it help him ...most definitely as even the top consultant that was seeing him said it was of benefit to him , he also said it should be getting used more to help treat things , sepsis is what eventually took his life which he had it 16 times 🤯 the final time he fought it for over 6 weeks in hospital but his body just couldn't take any more
Sorry for Your loss Pal .
Its inevitable that we lose our Parents its just when the time comes its hard to Fathom.
It takes a long time to get over but as the saying goes.
Time is a great healer .
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Your schizophrenic pal most likely used it as self medication and your drummer 50 years a stoner that probably puts him in his seventies most likely is a shadow of his former twenty year old self. How many people have youcame across in your lifetime who had issues with the drink.
About the same, so in my case that has doubled those in my life ruined by addiction, it is a society problem but looking at the streets of Cardiff yesterday, things aren't getting any better. For me it won't matter, but it might do for my Grandkids, we might have better technology now than 50 years ago, but it ain't just the Salmon fishing that has gone down the toilet.
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There are no proven direct links to serious health problems with cannabis users who don't mix the drug with tobacco and or other narcotics, The mental health / schizophrenia findings was more closely linked to the Afro carribean population not a wider study. They are genetically predisposed to forms of mental illness.

Many of the so called mental health studies relating to cannabis have been deemed inaccurate.

If you suffer from mental health disorders its well known that you should not partake in using any mind altering chemicals including alcohol yet depressed people can walk in and buy a bottle of vodka and go home and cause terror in a family home without a word asked...

Criminalising something as widely used as cannabis is nonsense, meanwhile synthetic highly addictive versions of the drugs destroy cities all over the UK because of the outdated policy on cannabis its often cheaper and easier for users to find those.

The criminal law system on drugs use has never worked in any country, its used for political point scoring and nothing else.

Go to any Portuguese city and see how much better they are after they implemented decriminalisation and treatment programs for drug users that would tell you anything you need to know.

When something is legal the risk factor and also the draw towards the taboo of being involved in it is greatly reduced.

If they educated children in schools on the subject instead of trying to demonise it I'm sure they would be far less interest from kids trying it.

The other point is whilst it is illegal there is a genetic arms race going on with growers to enhance the strength of different strains which are becoming more potent all of the above would be resolved with a sensible decriminalisation program there is no other sensible argument , billions have been spent globally trying to outlaw something that is as popular and less harmful then alcohol you have to ask yourself why?
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Having extensive personal family experience in this matter it is my firm conclusion that 99% of serious class A drug addictions start with cannabis. By legalising it you open the door and give the green light to other substance abuse and all the financial implications this exposes us to, not just the cost to the state but the families and individuals too.
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There are no proven direct links to serious health problems with cannabis users who don't mix the drug with tobacco and or other narcotics, The mental health / schizophrenia findings was more closely linked to the Afro carribean population not a wider study. They are genetically predisposed to forms of mental illness.

Many of the so called mental health studies relating to cannabis have been deemed inaccurate.

If you suffer from mental health disorders its well known that you should not partake in using any mind altering chemicals including alcohol yet depressed people can walk in and buy a bottle of vodka and go home and cause terror in a family home without a word asked...

Criminalising something as widely used as cannabis is nonsense, meanwhile synthetic highly addictive versions of the drugs destroy cities all over the UK because of the outdated policy on cannabis its often cheaper and easier for users to find those.

The criminal law system on drugs use has never worked in any country, its used for political point scoring and nothing else.

Go to any Portuguese city and see how much better they are after they implemented decriminalisation and treatment programs for drug users that would tell you anything you need to know.

When something is legal the risk factor and also the draw towards the taboo of being involved in it is greatly reduced.

If they educated children in schools on the subject instead of trying to demonise it I'm sure they would be far less interest from kids trying it.

The other point is whilst it is illegal there is a genetic arms race going on with growers to enhance the strength of different strains which are becoming more potent all of the above would be resolved with a sensible decriminalisation program there is no other sensible argument , billions have been spent globally trying to outlaw something that is as popular and less harmful then alcohol you have to ask yourself why?
Playing devil's advocate you could say that drinking shady and smoking cigarettes are the first gate to illegal drugs but that's ok?!? You really have to be responsible for yourself and it doesn't matter if you say alcohol, cigarettes or weed is a gateway drug it's really down to the people involved and yes people as a race are weak but we also have to be accountable for ourselves!!!
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