Demon 12' & 14' Sage TCR
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snowbee shooting head 42g is spot on. will get round to try a 700 grain skagit when i find a shop thats sells them [tcr]
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You could fish a 750 grain skagit on that rod no problem. Ive been doing so for just over a year now and I find it takes it all to load her up. This is personal opinion of course but dont consider the TCR a 9wt rod by any means.
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no never had it as a 9# thats why i use 42g on the 14ft and 12ft 9" hell of a rod
Gs
Novice at SHs.
Please tell do you mean 42 grams of Shooting Head plus, maybe a fast/slow sinker or do you mean 42 to include SH and whatever sinker?
Forgive ignorance but unless one asks…..
It is one mighty powerful rod but not aggressive in my humble view - it handles a Hardy Mach II 10 wt like candy. Have yet to try SHs but I can imagine. Wildfowler is slowly taking me down that road..!
Novice at SHs.
Please tell do you mean 42 grams of Shooting Head plus, maybe a fast/slow sinker or do you mean 42 to include SH and whatever sinker?
Forgive ignorance but unless one asks…..
It is one mighty powerful rod but not aggressive in my humble view - it handles a Hardy Mach II 10 wt like candy. Have yet to try SHs but I can imagine. Wildfowler is slowly taking me down that road..!
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42g is the shooting head only.if you start to play with tips remember not all lines will take a tip without cutting some of the tip of the line the fly line
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Mark,
I might get some running line next week.I dont know the weight of the guideline head youve got but if you put a fast sink tip on it I think it will fly I think the rod advises 34 ish grammes but as the other members say 40-44 inc tip will be on the money.Does anybody out there know the weight of a10.5 mtr 1/2 guideline head (I never weighed it)
Mark,
I might get some running line next week.I dont know the weight of the guideline head youve got but if you put a fast sink tip on it I think it will fly I think the rod advises 34 ish grammes but as the other members say 40-44 inc tip will be on the money.Does anybody out there know the weight of a10.5 mtr 1/2 guideline head (I never weighed it)
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you need too tell us the size of head 8/9 9/10 11/12
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Wtf
Its the 9/10
Sorry Im having a hard of thinking moment
Its the 9/10
Sorry Im having a hard of thinking moment
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14ft sage tcr.and demon 12ft
Hi Lichfield,i have 14ft tcr,great summer/ autumn rod.i use hardy mach55 floater,with 10ft clear tip added on end,and its the only rod/line combo i can cast standing waist deep,out, so the backing is half way up the rod.awesome.
the demon is small water/low water rod,fish it with hardy mach55 wf8 float,and a long leader,or 5ft int tip,go delicate presentation,your using wee flees, not big tubes.
Hi Lichfield,i have 14ft tcr,great summer/ autumn rod.i use hardy mach55 floater,with 10ft clear tip added on end,and its the only rod/line combo i can cast standing waist deep,out, so the backing is half way up the rod.awesome.
the demon is small water/low water rod,fish it with hardy mach55 wf8 float,and a long leader,or 5ft int tip,go delicate presentation,your using wee flees, not big tubes.
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Why would you fish the Demon 12ft #7 rod with an #8 line. Does it work better with a Mach55 #8 line than a #7? I'm asking because I'm thinking of buyin the Demon 12ft for use on the Coquet.
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IMHO it loads better with an 8wt. The rod is actually quite powerful for its size. Not certain I would 'over-load' it more though.
I use mine for summer/grilse fishing on the Borgie and yes, small flies.
Try a Demon first before buying if you can.
Re: TCR, well different beast altogether - the Hardy 55 just flies but so do shooting heads, Rio multi-tips, Monteith, Skagit etc the rod will deal with anything; it is the caster who needs to adjust and boy i am I having to adjust….!
Cheers
Mark
IMHO it loads better with an 8wt. The rod is actually quite powerful for its size. Not certain I would 'over-load' it more though.
I use mine for summer/grilse fishing on the Borgie and yes, small flies.
Try a Demon first before buying if you can.
Re: TCR, well different beast altogether - the Hardy 55 just flies but so do shooting heads, Rio multi-tips, Monteith, Skagit etc the rod will deal with anything; it is the caster who needs to adjust and boy i am I having to adjust….!
Cheers
Mark
I fish the 12 ft Demon. Lovely rod. Experimented a bit to find best line. Favourite so far is Hardy 8wt Mach 2 (they don't do a 7wt). This was what the boys at Alnwick recommended. I don't think the Mach 55's have a 7wt either. 7wt spey lines are pretty hard to find.
Tried a Norris spey DT 7 ok for close stuff but harder to get any distance than the Mach 2.
Rio Outbound 8wt integrated shooting head. Flies out easy to cast, but lands like a bag of spanners compared to the Mach 2.
I've now got the hang of the Mach 2 in all but the most unfavourable winds.
Would be interested to hear what anyone else uses on their 12ft Demon.
Gweb
Tried a Norris spey DT 7 ok for close stuff but harder to get any distance than the Mach 2.
Rio Outbound 8wt integrated shooting head. Flies out easy to cast, but lands like a bag of spanners compared to the Mach 2.
I've now got the hang of the Mach 2 in all but the most unfavourable winds.
Would be interested to hear what anyone else uses on their 12ft Demon.
Gweb
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Gweb
I use an 8# for my Demon too, I don't know why but of the lines i've tried the 8 weights worked best.
Also use a rio 7/8 multi tip for when floating lines are not the best option
but I'm always looking for the next best line if anyone else has suggestions
Ally G
I use an 8# for my Demon too, I don't know why but of the lines i've tried the 8 weights worked best.
Also use a rio 7/8 multi tip for when floating lines are not the best option
but I'm always looking for the next best line if anyone else has suggestions
Ally G
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