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I have always wanted to try one of the rods with the Zpey handle and have just got a Zpey Instinct 14`6 9/10, so far iv`e only had a short session with it not really long enough to form an opinion of the bent handle? I would like to hear from other members who have tried these rods and get opinions of this system of handle good or bad?
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Bent handles offer nothing to improving your technique or your hand/arm positions. A conventional straight handled rod and a bit of common sense and regular practice to maintain the correct form will be of far greater long term benefit. If you cant work out how to alter the balance of hand inputs with a straight rod then it wont get any easier with a bent one.

If you believe the bent handle actually gives you something then you are either trying to sell bent handled rods to others or you know so little about casting mechanics that you have chosen to follow the "Kings new clothes route" and are too lazy or lacking in grey matter to think logically about it.

The fact that the Zpey the original makers of the bent handle went bust and Loop (the only major tackle brand to try them) dropped them like a hot stone tells the story. I tested one of the first Zpey rods in the UK back in 2007 yet 13yrs later bent handles form a tiny minority of all salmon rods made says it all really.

Then again the main proponent of the benders now has been trying to tell the majority they are wrong for the last 10years!

Anyone who knows me will tell you I love innovation and anything that can improve efficiency really floats my boat, I studied the benders for a long time before reaching the conclusion I did, I really wanted to like them but in the end honesty prevailed. I still listen to arguments for them now but in truth nothing has been said about them that wasnt said back in 2007.

The only significant difference from the rods of 2007 to now is they have been made straighter, read into that what you will.
Is it groundhog day? I fell I have awoken and its 10yrs ago! I'm sure I'm not alone in saying this, but we have missed your imput. (some anyway) :unsure: :unsure::giggle:;):)
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Bent handles offer nothing to improving your technique or your hand/arm positions. A conventional straight handled rod and a bit of common sense and regular practice to maintain the correct form will be of far greater long term benefit. If you cant work out how to alter the balance of hand inputs with a straight rod then it wont get any easier with a bent one.

If you believe the bent handle actually gives you something then you are either trying to sell bent handled rods to others or you know so little about casting mechanics that you have chosen to follow the "Kings new clothes route" and are too lazy or lacking in grey matter to think logically about it.

The fact that the Zpey the original makers of the bent handle went bust and Loop (the only major tackle brand to try them) dropped them like a hot stone tells the story. I tested one of the first Zpey rods in the UK back in 2007 yet 13yrs later bent handles form a tiny minority of all salmon rods made says it all really.

Then again the main proponent of the benders now has been trying to tell the majority they are wrong for the last 10years!

Anyone who knows me will tell you I love innovation and anything that can improve efficiency really floats my boat, I studied the benders for a long time before reaching the conclusion I did, I really wanted to like them but in the end honesty prevailed. I still listen to arguments for them now but in truth nothing has been said about them that wasnt said back in 2007.

The only significant difference from the rods of 2007 to now is they have been made straighter, read into that what you will.
That`s good enough for me from someone who knows what they are talking about(y)
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we have missed your imput. (some anyway) :unsure: :unsure::giggle:;):)
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That`s good enough for me from someone who knows what they are talking about(y)
Im sure there will be others along soon enough to try and convince you otherwise :oops:
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Always regret a decision made in haste.:)
To be absolutely fair, that rod went through 3 sets of hands before it found a caring and loving home.
It needed someone who was prepared to spend time and effort getting to know it.
It was untamed with a huge wild streak which needed resolved before it calmed down and gave something back.:D
When everything came together, it returned in spades and is now my goto high water / big river rod.
What I would say Dougie, is for yourself fishing nearly exclusively the Clyde, it is far too powerful a tool for that purpose.
Don't know what you are fishing with now, as that changes on a weekly basis it would seem, but a 13ft 8 weight is plenty big enough I.M.O.
As you have probably read, I find my 12ft Loop Cross S1 7wt, coincidently, also bought from another skilled Clyde angler, Jamie McC., to be bang on for me.
Mind you, get yourself on the bridge at Mauldslie this lunch time and ask around. Guaranteed to get 20 different answers as to what rod is best.
It's all about style, technique, action and comfort in hand.
I don't have to tell you what rod Wee Mick will recommend.
What I would say is that he could buy 6 of his favourites for the money I gave you for the Gaelforce.:rolleyes:
So, who's right and who's wrong?:unsure:
tom he also had a great 12ft 6 marksman 2s spot on for the clyde that he moved on to quickly but it's got a loving ??❤home now ??
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tom he also had a great 12ft 6 marksman 2s spot on for the clyde that he moved on to quickly but it's got a loving ??❤home now ??
I just get a buzz out of buying and trying different rods, if I get my money back on the ones I sell then I am happy! :D
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I just get a buzz out of buying and trying different rods, if I get my money back on the ones I sell then I am happy! :D
More rods than Gac ????
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tom he also had a great 12ft 6 marksman 2s spot on for the clyde that he moved on to quickly but it's got a loving ??❤home now ??
Loving home ???. Must be the most overworked abused little rod with all the fish it has caught, bet it's glad the season is over :p :p
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Loving home ???. Must be the most overworked abused little rod with all the fish it has caught, bet it's glad the season is over :p :p
???? hopefully the 11ft 6 I got will take a bit of the strain off it John ? I'm already looking forward to getting out with it
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Hi Rod congratulations on your new Zpey the Instincts are without doubt one of the best rods Zpey ever produced stick to the 35g Scandi head weight and you won’t go far wrong.
I own four Zpeys and can definitely recommend them - wee bit of practice to familiarise yourself with the handle and that’s you sorted ?
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The blanks are excellent on all the rods by Salmologic and Zpey, that's the reason they sell imho, people enjoy the casting action, and the lines they sell match the rods and it seems to make sense to them when they have often been used to mis matched rods and lines, for out and shooting head rods they are one of the best, but they are lacking as all round salmon rods imho.
If you use the straight handle you will like them just as much as you would using the bent version.

The shape of the newer lower handle on the salmologic is an improvement, it provides good grip but adds no real world casting advantages over the straight version. However its very comfortable to hold.

I own 3 logic rods use them with the straight handle, they are nice light rods, but lack the versatility of a Scottish stye spey casting rod, they are aimed at light and delicate fishing which they excel, but like all fast hyperbolic actions they are one trick ponies
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Absolutely Rotanone every Rod is a compromise when used outside its particular comfort zone.
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