Welcome to Yorkshire - Fishing the River Ure

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First, thank you for your kind words.
The evidence suggests that springers start running the Ure very early in the year, subject as ever to the trigger of water flow. So in general, given water they will come any time from Christmas onwards. The weir at Tanfield/Mickley does appear to be a temperature barrier, which leads to fish stacking up in the stretch between Boroughbridge and Mickley in the early months of the year. In that respect Sleningford is the most easily accessible water below Tanfield and blessed with some very good holding pools.

If you get a wet spring through April and May there could be a steady flow of fish past Ripon offering opportunities. Under those conditions I've encountered salmon as far upstream as Aysgarth in early May. Interestingly, some of those that go furthest and early are also very large, but correspondingly few in number as they are spread out across the 30-40 miles of river upstream of Boroughbridge. So on that basis I don't think you would have to wait for June to catch fish at Ripon: indeed, quite the reverse, as evidenced by rods catching 6 springers at Newby over the opening weekend in April 2018.

As regards the spring/summer/autumn run balance I consider that water levels have a huge amount to do with run outcomes. While fish may want to run early, without the trigger of good flow and associated scents, they may well hang about offshore or in the Humber. This year we only had 6mm of rain in March and zero in April. As a write the gauge at Kilgram is solid at MSL (32cm), where it's been for the past 7 weeks, so there's no great incentive to run and Mickley becomes a physical obstacle if they do. As a result, in some years I've caught silver and grey fish up at Thoresby in September (the picture at the end the slides is an August fish), and in others there was no clear autumn run. I'm correspondingly reluctant to generalise. However, you are correct in stating that the river below Masham is very lightly fished, which gives us an incomplete picture of the runs, except when they are most concentrated around Ripon earlier in the season. The other distorting factor is that on the upper beats, by the time you reach September, given water earlier in the year, there may be so many spring and summer runners gathered that the statistical chance of you connecting with a fresh autumn runner amongst them is much reduced.

I hope that helps, even if it's very broad brush.
 

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Thank you Michael, you make good sense as usual. We seem to be getting very unpredictable weather these days and water levels seem to be feast or famine. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the easing of lockdown coincides with a nice period of rain. We can but dream.

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I can vouch for the River Ure.

I fished Thoresby for 3 days, two years ago and although we had great water the fishing was spoiled for all 3 days by clear felling at the top of the river which made the water like sludge most of the time. Even so, I lost a fish and my brother in Law caught his first ever salmon on the top pool (Froddle Dub)of the upper water.

Would highly recommend a visit for the beauty of Yorkshire, Bolton Castle, hospitality at The White Swan at Middleham and the fly fishing water to die for. Brian Towers is also a great guide and was a great help to my B-in-Law "!:thumb::thumb:
 

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Thank you Paul. Let's hope that the next time you come to Yorkshire you get good water and lots more fish.

The clear felling you refer to was most unfortunate, in that the forestry block was astride a seam of white clay, which once disturbed and wetted by rain led to large volumes of very fine white silt entering the river. As it was so light it persisted for ages and degraded the fishing for miles of otherwise first class water.
 

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Yes it was a great shame Michael, but just one of those things. Brian was very cross!

When we are back to normal I would love to fish it again and also come up and do some shooting on those wonderful shoots you have in Yorkshire. I shot Reeth three years ago and that was brilliant, but would like to shoot some of the pheasant shoots too!!

All the very best!!
 

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Really got me tempted ,once the lockdown on hotels/b&bs ect is over I am very keen ,a salmon river that doesnt involve running up the A9!
 

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Thanks for some great information, our club has a beat at Masham that I keep saying I’ve got to get over and try, after watching that I’m even more determined to get across and wet a line
 

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If the fishing isn't up to much and the weather is good, there is some amazing scenery and walking in the area. I know the Hawes, Leyburn, Aysgarth, Bolton Castle areas best. On a sunny day, probably as picturesque as anywhere in England.
 

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it's a shame their isn't a few more day tickets on the upper Ure..... I've fished Swinton and Thoresby, both lovely pieces of water...
 

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Thing is!, if the fishings **** there's the ale!, god help you after a full day on that.Then explain to the Mrs. why she has to drive xxx miles to come n pick you up because your legs have stopped working!
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I have posted a short slideshow on YouTube describing the River Ure and its main beats.

Well done Michael. A very comprehensive introduction to a river system known to me only in part through JIW. Not sure I’ll get there this year but will certainly have it on my list for 2021.
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Excellent, thank you very much for taking the time. I'll have to give it a shot some time once I can get over the habit of always driving north or west for my salmon fishing:)
Is there also a sea trout run on the Ure?
 

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The highest level ever recorded at Bainbridge, there's going to be some serious flooding downstream when it eventually gets there, York will be bracing itself yet again.
 

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Oh you've got me dreaming now. I live in North London and loved fishing the Thames, about 15 miles away before the environment agency killed off the run with raw sewage.
One of my favourite rivers is the Ivel a fast 35 mile drive less than 40mins away. The Ivel is a tributary of the Gt Ouse so in theory could get Salmon in the future. How far from the tide would the upper Gt Ouse be? The Ivel enters the Ouse a mile or two from Biggleswade, not far from Bedford. The Ivel would probably be a good spawning river as it's has the steepest gradient of any English river. IIRC.
I could get used to Salmon fishing less than an hour from home.
 

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Oh you've got me dreaming now. I live in North London and loved fishing the Thames, about 15 miles away before the environment agency killed off the run with raw sewage.
One of my favourite rivers is the Ivel a fast 35 mile drive less than 40mins away. The Ivel is a tributary of the Gt Ouse so in theory could get Salmon in the future. How far from the tide would the upper Gt Ouse be? The Ivel enters the Ouse a mile or two from Biggleswade, not far from Bedford. The Ivel would probably be a good spawning river as it's has the steepest gradient of any English river. IIRC.
I could get used to Salmon fishing less than an hour from home.
Are you sure that the Ivel has the steepest gradient of any English river? Given that it is as flat as the witches proverbial down there :) :) The Swale is often touted as the fastest flowing English river but I suppose it depends on how you class a river. Some of the Lake District streams are damn near vertical!

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I have posted a short slideshow on YouTube describing the River Ure and its main beats.

many thanks for the very informative film, I will be looking at the catch figures closely, hopefully will give a go next year.
thanks once again, it’s really good to see catch’s going in the opposite direction.
 

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I have posted a short slideshow on YouTube describing the River Ure and its main beats.

Having just joined this forum, this was the first thread my eye went to and it has been a complete joy to read. Had I seen that excellent film/slide show earlier I'd have explored the Ure a lot sooner.

I live in York and have fished the Ure sporadically in the past, but this year got a bit more serious. I joined Tanfield mid season and have found that superb trout and grayling water but haven't so much as seen any evidence of salmon. However, I fished Swinton in early October and caught my first Ure salmon - a hen for about 15lb from the holding water in the Roman Bridge pool. A seriously lovely fish.

I often walk my dogs by Naburn weir and have seen salmon in the weir pool as well as two varieties of poachers. Its not uncommon for seals to follow the spring runs up from the Humber and then become resident in the Ouse just below the weir. I've spoken to one York and District member fishing on one of their game tickets who had lost a salmon on the spinner to the seal. I also once saw a couple of blokes who'd climbed in to the EA pen by the fish ladder and were up to no good. I rang it in to the EA and reported it to the the marina owner so hopefully some action was taken.

Having seen the film, I doubt I'll go anywhere else much next season as its great to have so much excellent water less than an hours drive from home. Thanks very much MCX - hope I bump in to you next season.
 

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Richard,
many thanks for your kind comments. I look forward to meeting you next season, if not before. There's a cluster of Forum members around York, so as and when lockdown is lifted next year I might try to organise an evening event with a speaker or two. Let me know if you might be interested.
I'd be very interested in that MCX and look forward to it when we are able!
 

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Richard,
many thanks for your kind comments. I look forward to meeting you next season, if not before. There's a cluster of Forum members around York, so as and when lockdown is lifted next year I might try to organise an evening event with a speaker or two. Let me know if you might be interested.

Count me in please!


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Are you sure that the Ivel has the steepest gradient of any English river? Given that it is as flat as the witches proverbial down there :) :) The Swale is often touted as the fastest flowing English river but I suppose it depends on how you class a river. Some of the Lake District streams are damn near vertical!

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River Wear has roughly the same elevation as the Swale but is much shorter so I doubt the Swale is faster flowing than the Wear. I always thought the Wear was the fastest flowing river in England but happy to be proved wrong on that☺️
 
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River Wear has roughly the same elevation as the Swale but is much shorter so I doubt the Swale is faster flowing than the Wear. I always thought the Wear was the fastest flowing river in England but happy to be proved wrong on that☺
I doubt there is a definitive answer. Of the Dales rivers the Nidd starts at the highest elevation but is impounded near its headwaters and also disappears underground. I just can't believe that the Ivel could be as fast as any of the Pennine rivers but again I could well be wrong.

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I doubt there is a definitive answer. Of the Dales rivers the Nidd starts at the highest elevation but is impounded near its headwaters and also disappears underground. I just can't believe that the Ivel could be as fast as any of the Pennine rivers but again I could well be wrong.

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Yep, Nidd trump's Wear. Greater elevation and shorter length.
 

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I doubt there is a definitive answer. Of the Dales rivers the Nidd starts at the highest elevation but is impounded near its headwaters and also disappears underground. I just can't believe that the Ivel could be as fast as any of the Pennine rivers but again I could well be wrong.

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It could be the river Kent you know re the steepest river in England. One of my favourite rivers the Dart could be on that list also? In North Wales the steepest river I’ve ever fished would have to be the Ogwen I think?
 
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