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Just an observation but there's some proper touchy folk about on here. I've had it sometimes myself after posting an off the cuff remark mostly in jest, but why can't people lighten up a bit ?

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There's a chance that people may take things in ways other than we mean them to be taken because in online forums it is easy to get weird replies on threads.

When we are writing, our own meanings may seem clear to us but the way our words may be read and comprehended by others can never be guaranteed.

I am a 'proof reader' I write then I read and then read again to see if what I'm trying to say is clear. Even with the additional effort I sometimes manage to get someone all ****** at me. The best you can do is try to imagine the context in which your written words may be taken. If there seems to you that there's a good chance you may be misunderstood you are probably right.

many times I've written a reply only to leave it unposted because it reads like nonsense, this one is getting dangerously close so I'll stop here :shocked:
 

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I have a simple rule. Never put out something I would not say to ones face. If someone dislikes what I say or it offends them then that is there problem.
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There's a chance that people may take things in ways other than we mean them to be taken because in online forums it is easy to get weird replies on threads.

When we are writing, our own meanings may seem clear to us but the way our words may be read and comprehended by others can never be guaranteed.

I am a 'proof reader' I write then I read and then read again to see if what I'm trying to say is clear. Even with the additional effort I sometimes manage to get someone all ****** at me. The best you can do is try to imagine the context in which your written words may be taken. If there seems to you that there's a good chance you may be misunderstood you are probably right.

many times I've written a reply only to leave it unposted because it reads like nonsense, this one is getting dangerously close so I'll stop here :shocked:
I generally do all that but it still doesn't always work I think the problem is more about people reacting to a post before reading and digesting what's been written. I've seen quite a few recently that read fine, only to see a completely ott reaction from someone. The main reason I try to avoid the Brexit thread

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Posts get misinterpreted, but I think it just comes down the fact that this forum in particularly, after an exodus and bannings of very good members and all that came with it, is now only left with oddballs, megalomaniacs and snowflakes and they have nobody else to spar with now apart from themselves


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Posts get misinterpreted, but I think it just comes down the fact that this forum in particularly, after an exodus and bannings of very good members and all that came with it, is now only left with oddballs, megalomaniacs and snowflakes and they have nobody else to spar with now apart from themselves


DCH
I think you are being a bit hard on yourself there. I wouldn't class you as an oddball, meglamaniac or snowflake but then what do I know. Or have I got that message wrong.
 
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I think you are being a bit hard on yourself there. I wouldn't class you as an oddball, meglamaniac or snowflake but then what do I know. Or have I got that message wrong.

Hahaha .....

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Posts get misinterpreted, but I think it just comes down the fact that this forum in particularly, after an exodus and bannings of very good members and all that came with it, is now only left with oddballs, megalomaniacs and snowflakes and they have nobody else to spar with now apart from themselves


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I think the collective term is “salmon fishermen”. Those from some rivers seem to display those tendencies more than others.
 

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Cant really say ive sparred with anyone on here, its a forum about a hobbie. Nowt life or death.
As above i would say on here the same as i would say in person which is being polite and chatty unless mirroring the chattees (think i just invented a word) attitude towards me or others. I dont put up with idiots and attitude but ive not really found that in salmon fishing at all and only had the odd one or 2 run ins on the river bank.

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Posts get misinterpreted, but I think it just comes down the fact that this forum in particularly, after an exodus and bannings of very good members and all that came with it, is now only left with oddballs, megalomaniacs and snowflakes and they have nobody else to spar with now apart from themselves


DCH
Not being aware of all these 'very good members' who have been banned from the website I would still respectfully have to share something I've learned. I've been moderating and managing forums for nearly 12 years and one thing I know about members being banned is that people have to cross a line to be removed from a fly fishing forum.

Sometimes the incidents that precipitate someone being banned occur out of site of the open threads. Most often (in my own experiences) a member is contacted via PM to request that they change a behavior pattern and the person reacts in a very negative manner. Other instances are the result of repeated transgressions after many warnings.

In essence what such things have demonstrated to me is that regardless of whoever or how many other members may think someone is a "very good member" banned members have demonstrated beyond doubt that we can survive without their participation.

Just yesterday my e-mail received a reported post from the UK. Fly Fishing Forums. I followed the link to the thread in question, the member had left a less than friendly post on a thread centered on current political conditions in the UK.

This is something I tread extremely lightly around because I am neither a citizen of the UK. nor am I well versed with the intrinsic of current political unrest...……..

Out of curiosity I took a look at this fellows posting history. I was familiar with his username because I've handled at least half dozen reported posts centered on him lately. After scanning 9 pages of posts (that's 225 different replies or started threads) I did not fine one, that's (1) post about fishing.

You may see this differently but to me that's pretty damming, 225 posts on the Fly Fishing Forums UK. and not a single one regarding fishing, or gear, or locations, not a one. I'd be willing to bet that if I were to scan another 4 pages (100 more posts) I still may not find any about fishing!

So, what exactly would you say might make that fellow a highly valued participant within a fly fishing club or online forum group?

There have been others who simply live to be the fly in the ointment, to argue or play devils advocate in any thread they post to. Once again a little time spent examining the history can be very telling when it comes to figuring out why some folks log on to a forum.

Point being? I've banned some members over the years. I've even deleted accounts along with bans so to completely expunge some peoples record of having ever been on a forum. Do I think I ever did that with regard to a very good member? No, not once, something quite unacceptable has always led up to that point.

I found fly fishing forums because of organic search results years ago. Over the years I've left some 24,000 posts and started threads. Other than some administrative announcements all of those threads and posts were about fishing or something I do in preparation for fishing like work at my cabin and fly tying etc.

I'll stop now...
 
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It’s budge’s thread on touchy folk. I couldn’t care less as I’m now posting less like many others. I just gave a reason on why.

And ps Hardyreels .... if you read my post again i mentioned exodus so it’s not all about the bannings so no need to be so touchy 🙂. And if you are thinking of digging deeper on my profile you’ll see I have actually posted fishing related stuff in the past, just in case you are thinking of drawing parallels, but not for a long time because to be frank, there’s no point anymore for the reasons I’ve already stated

DCH
 
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Not being aware of all these 'very good members' who have been banned from the website I would still respectfully have to share something I've learned. I've been moderating and managing forums for nearly 12 years and one thing I know about members being banned is that people have to cross a line to be removed from a fly fishing forum.

Sometimes the incidents that precipitate someone being banned occur out of site of the open threads. Most often (in my own experiences) a member is contacted via PM to request that they change a behavior pattern and the person reacts in a very negative manner. Other instances are the result of repeated transgressions after many warnings.

In essence what such things have demonstrated to me is that regardless of whoever or how many other members may think someone is a "very good member" banned members have demonstrated beyond doubt that we can survive without their participation.

Just yesterday my e-mail received a reported post from the UK. Fly Fishing Forums. I followed the link to the thread in question, the member had left a less than friendly post on a thread centered on current political conditions in the UK.

This is something I tread extremely lightly around because I am neither a citizen of the UK. nor am I well versed with the intrinsic of current political unrest...……..

Out of curiosity I took a look at this fellows posting history. I was familiar with his username because I've handled at least half dozen reported posts centered on him lately. After scanning 9 pages of posts (that's 225 different replies or started threads) I did not fine one, that's (1) post about fishing.

You may see this differently but to me that's pretty damming, 225 posts on the Fly Fishing Forums UK. and not a single one regarding fishing, or gear, or locations, not a one. I'd be willing to bet that if I were to scan another 4 pages (100 more posts) I still may not find any about fishing!

So, what exactly would you say might make that fellow a highly valued participant within a fly fishing club or online forum group?

There have been others who simply live to be the fly in the ointment, to argue or play devils advocate in any thread they post to. Once again a little time spent examining the history can be very telling when it comes to figuring out why some folks log on to a forum.

Point being? I've banned some members over the years. I've even deleted accounts along with bans so to completely expunge some peoples record of having ever been on a forum. Do I think I ever did that with regard to a very good member? No, not once, something quite unacceptable has always led up to that point.

I found fly fishing forums because of organic search results years ago. Over the years I've left some 24,000 posts and started threads. Other than some administrative announcements all of those threads and posts were about fishing or something I do in preparation for fishing like work at my cabin and fly tying etc.

I'll stop now...

I read what you say but I do think the forum could have benefitted if the current owners had considered an amnesty in respect of some of those banned under the previous regime.......each case being determined on its merits.......it’s not too late.....
Mediocrity prevails at present......IMHO.....
I still visit a lot but only because I don’t do face book or any other social media......I am considering wandering off but I will leave it there in the knowledge that stubbornness will continue to rule out any amnesty and this forum will remain a poorer place as a result
 

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Crickey Hardy - 225 posts without a mention of salmon fishing. Have a look at Saffy, it runs into thousands but she is humorous and probably better looking than most posters.:nod:
 
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That’s a good point that tenet ..... I sometimes think that if I was a black gay female Muslim I’d probably be treated better on here

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Posts get misinterpreted, but I think it just comes down the fact that this forum in particularly, after an exodus and bannings of very good members and all that came with it, is now only left with oddballs, megalomaniacs and snowflakes and they have nobody else to spar with now apart from themselves


DCH
One of the reasons I don’t bother posting as much these days
Too many experts who have something to say or need to pass comment on or about every thread even if they have no knowledge or experience of that particular thread.

‘Henry’s cat’ syndrome 🐱
 
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The forum should be renamed The Brexit Forum, that monstrous thread placed in the general board, and anything fishing related should be demoted to the lounge as a bi product

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The forum should be renamed The Brexit Forum, that monstrous thread placed in the general board, and anything fishing related should be demoted to the lounge as a bi product

DCH
I'd put the big black padlock on the Brexit thread :thumb: absolutely sick of seeing it at the top of the pile... if half of the members who posted on it actually posted something fishing related ( FAT CHANCE ) we might actually have a fishing forum
 
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I’ve never posted on it. If that’s what people want to log on here and discuss well that’s up to them. I just pass it by. But it makes a mockery of the shock and outrage of all the light hearted and wind up posts of the past where the very same folks would label as pish and be offended by. Pity they couldn’t have just done the same

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One of the reasons I don’t bother posting as much these days
Too many experts who have something to say or need to pass comment on or about every thread even if they have no knowledge or experience of that particular thread.

‘Henry’s cat’ syndrome 🐱

This is so true. Dare post a comment on the serial posters and they close ranks. Too many people know too little about too much and sometimes post just for the sake of it. Speculation and opinions posted as facts/ They know who they are and so do we but where would the forum be without them..
 

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This is so true. Dare post a comment on the serial posters and they close ranks. Too many people know too little about too much and sometimes post just for the sake of it. Speculation and opinions posted as facts/ They know who they are and so do we but where would the forum be without them..
Personally I think that if the know it all’s & blow-hards stopped hijacking every thread then the genuine guys in the know would be more likely to post & it would be far more insightful than what most of the gobshites proclaim to know😬
 

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The Forum's great. Folks are inherently fickle.

Top dawg HR has had tough boots to fill (slainte, Springer).

What matters on SFF is discourse: none of us know the Compleat Angle - we're blethering, basically - about a relatively confined practice now rapidly coming under threat of existence.

A half shillins worth via two points:

1) Don't think for a minute that UN-principled filtered-down legislative effects aren't realpolitik. We've already been served that in measure c/o the 'science' of Thin and ironically, trusts; objective met and velkom to da krusher...

2) All at sea? The next Big Thing. One of the great problems associated with mobile marine stuff is trackability. We've just about got a few recent two hundreds of years worth of oceanic salinity, temp and flow measurement fluctuations. Qv:

'The researchers conclude that the slowdown of this glacier, known in the Greenlandic language as Sermeq Kujalleq, occurred because an ocean current that brings water to the glacier's ocean face grew much cooler in 2016. Water temperatures in the vicinity of the glacier are now colder than they have been since the mid-1980s.'

Cold Water Currently Slowing Fastest Greenland Glacier | NASA

Worth watching if only for nasa...

Best to all.

Slainte :D...
 
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