The S S , collection

Scierra

Well-known member
Messages
242
Reaction score
344
SCIERRA SHRIMPS
Deadly best describes them
All Shrimp flies pictured below I have caught Salmon and Seatrout on , mostly colour co-ordinated, and xmas tree decoration- crystal/lureflash free ! no salmon flies were dressed with these flashy tinsely-fied decorationspre pre-1970 ? Its the crystal flash that catches anglers , Natural dressings of trout flies never don tinsel ,just the stripping lures .
I have updated from my original dressings, My motto is fish with confidence is key for sure , and its good to fish with fly the fish have never seen before when migrating up river . and triggers and resembles a bit like what their menu was at sea ?

Although I have fished and caught on many of the popular shrimp patterns up to 7 years ago, For me these flies have given me so much confidence , The norm is to have up 3 or 4 favourite patterns, mine is 8 up to present ,

I also dress tubes and sunray type in these , I may post some here at a later date



Pink Double
Hook- Partridge Patriot size 4 to 10 doubles
Feelers 3 Pink boar bristles
Head Whiskers-Pink cock saddle fibres
Black Small Shrimp eyes
Body -Pink Holographic tinsel
Rib- Medium silver wire
Legs- approx 4/5 yellow boar bristles tied evenly
all round dressed curved outward tied in
(under the hackle)
Hackle -Pink cock
Tail - Red Varnish under clear
Pink Shrimp (2).jpeg




Black & Gold Double
Hook- -Partridge Patriot size 4 to 10 doubles
Feelers --3 Yellow boar bristles
Head Whiskers--Orange & Yellow cock saddle fibres mixed
Black Small Shrimp eyes
Body -Yellow Holographic tinsel
Rib- Medium silver wire
Legs- approx 4/5 yellow boar bristles tied evenly
all round dressed curved outward tied in
(under the hackle) and red cock saddle fibres tied
in either side
Hackle - Black cock
Tail - Black Varnish under clear

Black & Gold Prawn (3).jpeg





Black & Silver Double
Hook-Partridge Patriot size 4 to 10 doubles
Feelers -3 Yellow boar bristles
Head Whiskers- Black & yellow on top, cock saddle fibres
Black small shrimp eyes
Body -Silver holographic tinsel
Rib- Medium silver wire
Legs- 4/5 Yellow boar bristles (ditto on D.R above.)
Hackle- Black Cock
Tail- Black Varnish under clear

Black & Silver.jpeg





Orange Double
Hook- Partridge Patriot size 4 to 10 doubles
Feelers 3 Orange boar bristles
Head Whiskers-Orange red cock saddle fibres
Black Small Shrimp eyes
Body -Orange Holographic tinsel
Rib- Medium silver wire
Legs- approx 4/5 yellow boar bristles tied evenly
all round dressed curved outward tied in
(under the hackle)
Hackle - Orange Red cock
Tail - Red Varnish under clear
Orange.jpeg




Blue & Silver Double
Hook- Partridge Patriot size 4 to 10 doubles
Feelers 3 Yellow boar bristles
Head Whiskers-Yellow cock saddle fibres under Blue
Black Small Shrimp eyes
Body -Silver Holographic tinsel
Rib- Medium silver wire
Under Hackle --Red cock fibres tied in either side ( Or optional yellow B.B.)
Hackle - Teal or kingfisher Blue under Black
Tail - Black Varnish under clear
Blue.jpeg





Red & Silver Double
Hook- Partridge Patriot size 4 to 10 doubles
Feelers-- 3 Red boar bristles
Head Whiskers--Scarlet red cock saddle fibres
Black Small Shrimp eyes
Body -Silver Holographic tinsel
Rib- Medium silver wire
Legs- approx 4/5 yellow boar bristles tied evenly
all round dressed curved outward tied in
(under the hackle)
Hackle - Scarlet Red cock
Tail - Red Varnish under clear
silver Red (2).jpeg





Yellow Double
Hook- Partridge Patriot size 4 to 10 doubles
Feelers-3 Yellow Red boar bristles
Head Whiskers-Scarlet red cock saddle fibres,& yellow mixed
Black Small Shrimp eyes
Body -Yellow Holographic tinsel
Rib- Medium silver wire
Legs- approx 4/5 yellow boar bristles tied evenly
all round dressed curved outward tied in
(under the hackle)
Hackle - Scarlet Red cock & Yellow mixed
Tail - Black Varnish under clear
IMG_0661.jpeg

Another view
Uncased (2).JPEG






Deadly Red Double
Hook- Partridge Patriot size 4 to 10 doubles
Feelers 3 Red boar bristles
Head Whiskers-Scarlet red cock saddle fibres
Black Small Shrimp eyes
Body -Red Holographic tinsel
Rib- Medium silver wire
Legs- approx 4/5 yellow boar bristles tied evenly
all round dressed curved outward tied in
(under the hackle)
Hackle - Scarlet Red cock
Tail - Red Varnish under clear
The Deadly Red (2).jpeg
 
Last edited:

Andrew B

Well-known member
Messages
1,812
Reaction score
1,391
Superb looking flies and couldn’t agree more about the lureflash and yes you wouldn’t dream of putting it on a trout fly so why Salmon?
Like how you’ve used this pattern with all the traditional colour types.
 

Scierra

Well-known member
Messages
242
Reaction score
344
I think I saw the Deadly Red in the T&S some time ago. Excellent flies (y)
For sure you are correct , That was my write up (y) The Editor named the article "A Prawn by any other name" and another Deadly Red article in the defunct magazine "Practical Game Fishing " in the early 1990's

That's why I have said upgraded/tweaked the dressings on all of them ,Originally all finer boar bristles were used instead of the hackles, but they are not numerous enough, I still incorporate 4 or 5 boar bristles in most of the tyings but cock hackles have far greater movement, I also have removed any glitter/crystal flash ,the fly doesn't need it.
I was watching a Mackenzie podcast (great viewing), the discussion was singles doubles and trebles, he said doubles can fish upside down ? I totally agree with him if a fly was dressed on doubles as a monkey or winged , as some tank tests have proved , and more so if you dress up a fly that actually looks like a shrimp, it will swim upside down every single time if tied on a double or a single hook ! Trebles ? I've never tried

A hackle shrimp dressing are even all round as on pics above, on doubles & tubes armed with doubles, the shrimp flies will fish more or less upright , and the curved out feelers can give it more movement and keep the double fishing on a level plain ,
As I have said it all started with the Deadly Red ,because way back when I fished dyed Ruby Red natural shrimps , natural brown shrimps are all the same colour as dyed ones are too .
My favourites are Red & Red & Silver, very close behind are all the rest .
I have another dressing ongoing at present yet to grass on , had 2 offers last season they were brief encounters on the 2 occasions I fished it ,but again back on the vice in close season and upgraded them too . Named "Stingers"
 
Last edited:

Andrzej

Well-known member
Messages
1,293
Reaction score
1,834
Location
Thurso
For sure you are correct , That was my write up (y) The Editor named the article "A Prawn by any other name" and another Deadly Red article in the defunct magazine "Practical Game Fishing " in the early 1990's

That's why I have said upgraded/tweaked the dressings on all of them ,Originally all finer boar bristles were used instead of the hackles, but they are not numerous enough, I still incorporate 4 or 5 boar bristles in most of the tyings but cock hackles have far greater movement, I also have removed any glitter/crystal flash ,the fly doesn't need it.
I was watching a Mackenzie podcast (great viewing), the discussion was singles doubles and trebles, he said doubles can fish upside down ? I totally agree with him if a fly was dressed on doubles as a monkey or winged , as some tank tests have proved , and more so if you dress up a fly that actually looks like a shrimp, it will swim upside down every single time if tied on a double or a single hook ! Trebles ? I've never tried

A hackle shrimp dressing are even all round as on pics above, on doubles & tubes armed with doubles, the shrimp flies will fish more or less upright , and the curved out feelers can give it more movement and keep the double fishing on a level plain ,
As I have said it all started with the Deadly Red ,because way back when I fished dyed Ruby Red natural shrimps , natural brown shrimps are all the same colour as dyed ones are too .
My favourites are Red & Red & Silver, very close behind all the rest .
I have another dressing ongoing at present yet to grass on , had 2 offers last season they were brief encounters on the 2 occasions I fished it ,but again back on the vice in close season and upgraded them too . Named "Stingers"
Thank you Scierra. I like simplicity and shrimpy look of these flies. I'll try to tie a few.
 

DrPatrickT

Well-known member
Messages
2,476
Reaction score
2,269
Location
Cheshire
They look great scierra, a nice not heavily dressed fly. Not really thought about putting eyes on a hook - but can imagine those eyes with the piggie bristles looking super shrimpy. Love the orange version. I can see why they are deadly! 👍
 

Fons

Member
Messages
49
Reaction score
35
Location
Belgium
I have caught Salmon and Seatrout on ,
Is there a special way to fish shrimps? Close to the bottom; subsurface or in between? And are they fished in rather slow moving deep pools OR also in shallow places with fast currents?
 

Scierra

Well-known member
Messages
242
Reaction score
344
They look great scierra, a nice not heavily dressed fly. Not really thought about putting eyes on a hook - but can imagine those eyes with the piggie bristles looking super shrimpy. Love the orange version. I can see why they are deadly! 👍
Yes , some flies are way over heavily dressed, even more so when some dressings bodies are blocked off and more so when JC is tied in , I can't see the point of dressing an attractor body that can't be seen ? The eyes give the flies "Life" more so the way you fish them , Note all my dressings the holographic bodies are all well visible , if you hold the fly at eye level and view it from behind the eyes are well visible , this has got to get a reaction from salmon ?
 

Scierra

Well-known member
Messages
242
Reaction score
344
Is there a special way to fish shrimps? Close to the bottom; subsurface or in between? And are they fished in rather slow moving deep pools OR also in shallow places with fast currents?
Fish them with confidence as you would ,figure 8 and stripplng at all depths and in falling spates etc , The main thing is to know you are covering fish? otherwise you will blank as usual . I have them tied on Brass & copper tubes too , to fish deeper , I probably put pics up on this thread ?
 

Scierra

Well-known member
Messages
242
Reaction score
344
Yes , some flies are way over heavily dressed, even more so when some dressings bodies are blocked off and more so when JC is tied in , I can't see the point of dressing an attractor body that can't be seen ? The eyes give the flies "Life" more so the way you fish them , Note all my dressings the holographic bodies are all well visible , if you hold the fly at eye level and view it from behind the eyes are well visible , this has got to get a reaction from salmon ?
Pics , fishes rear level views ? before engulfing

Orange
Rear orange.jpeg


Red & Silver
Rear1.jpeg


Pink
Rear 2.jpeg


Yellow
Rear 3.jpeg


Deadly Red
Rear 4.jpeg
 
Last edited:

Scierra

Well-known member
Messages
242
Reaction score
344
More pics, from the S.S.collection
Tied these up for when I win the lottery to fish the Oykel :LOL: ,single hooks only there,
Flying With Wings, wing length approx 3.75 inches, kinda sunny rayed,

I have grassed with the Black & Orange and the Orange & Yellow on the Thurso on a tube dressings.
I must say I fancy the Red & orange to do some damage too
All these 4 dressings are similar to dressings to Shrimp dressings , but no feelers or Boar Bristles as they would restrict wing movement , The wings are all goat hair, Like I have quoted earlier no flash tinsel or JC are needed, the fish will see these 30 yds away, Tinsel flash always annoyed me on flies I tied in the past , they used to kink and ravel sometimes,


4 singles (2).jpeg




The Collection all below
Below Box full of Doubles, one dressing not fished yet , Black and Chartreuse ,2 one in each corner
Deadly Shrimps (2).jpeg





Below themed on sunrays in Tubes and doubles
Hairwing Shrimps (2).jpeg




Below 4 of a kind X 2 S.S. Pinks & Yellows shrimps and sunrayed
Pink selection.jpeg

Yellow sellection.jpeg




Below ,Tube selection S.S. Dozen, 2 yet to grass on ,Black top left , and top 3rd left themed on gold bodied Wullie Gunn

SS Dozen.jpeg

Below The same12 above tubes but set in a circle
Circled (2).jpeg

Not a sign of any crystal flash in sight.
Approx 50% of my S.S. collection ,Probably just enough for the season. :D:D:D
 
Last edited:

Scierra

Well-known member
Messages
242
Reaction score
344
My try on the Scierra Shrimps, these are #8. I think I could add a turn or two more for hackles. Many thanks Scierra for posting your pattern (y)

View attachment 59801
I prefer a bit more hackle on mine , but not so so you can't see the holo bodies.
what are you using for the eyes ? and size ?
The more feeler bristles you tie in the less movement you get off them ,
I only tie in 3 cos you might snap a one off ? 2 is fine,,, natural shrimps have 2 feelers only

I notice quite a few on here tying allys and cascades,shrimp flies with feelers now , I fished cascades with feelers 8 years ago
 
Last edited:

salmonless

New member
Messages
14
Reaction score
14
Can I ask please, how do you/where do you get the eyes. And also how is the body made up? Is it just floss with mirage tinsel and wire? If you could post a recipe that would be awesome. They look incredible! Thanks for posting
 

Andrzej

Well-known member
Messages
1,293
Reaction score
1,834
Location
Thurso
I prefer a bit more hackle on mine , but not so so you can't see the holo bodies.
what are you using for the eyes ? and size ?
The more feeler bristles you tie in the less movement you get off them ,
I only tie in 3 cos you might snap a one off ? 2 is fine,,, natural shrimps have 2 feelers only

I notice quite a few on here tying allys and cascades,shrimp flies with feelers now , I fished cascades with feelers 8 years ago
Thanks Scierra for your advice, I'll try to improve my next flies. I make the eyes from 0.4mm nylon, size is about 2mm diameter. I don't have too much experience with feelers, actually have started using them in my flies last year, but they proved to be attractive to the salmon :D
 

Scierra

Well-known member
Messages
242
Reaction score
344
Thanks Scierra for your advice, I'll try to improve my next flies. I make the eyes from 0.4mm nylon, size is about 2mm diameter. I don't have too much experience with feelers, actually have started using them in my flies last year, but they proved to be attractive to the salmon :D
I don't like to criticise your tyings they are superb ,but maybe the eyes are a bit on the big size ? Maybe not as blown up pics are deceiving ? But wow you have made them yourself which is brill, something I haven' t got round too ?I've had a few attempts ? But with nearly 200 doubles and tubes I'm in no rush to tie many more ,
 
Last edited:

Scierra

Well-known member
Messages
242
Reaction score
344
Get Down ,Getter Rem Down (Status Quo ! )


3 . Tubes, All great "Grassers"
All dressed on copper tubes & brass cones,
I like my flies to look rugged, as in the Red with Yellow B.B. tied under wing,
The Yellow and Orange tubes I have omitted the B.B. some may find it awkward tying in the under hackle B.B. ?


Deadly Red, Red Cone

Deadly Red (2).jpeg




Deadly Yellow Tube, Gold Cone
Hackle-- Yellow & Orange cock mixed

yellow tube.jpeg





Deadly Red & Orange, Copper Cone
Hackle --Scarlet & Orange cock mixed


Copper Conehead (3).jpeg
 
Last edited:

Hardyreels

Administrator
Staff member
Messages
1,996
Reaction score
1,137
Location
Alaska
I've decided to Pin this thread because it certainly shows a lot of different combinations. Although they don't have the material recipe with most appear easy enough to sort out for tying.

Well done.
 

Scierra

Well-known member
Messages
242
Reaction score
344
I've decided to Pin this thread because it certainly shows a lot of different combinations. Although they don't have the material recipe with most appear easy enough to sort out for tying.

Well done.
Since there are no recipes/dressings , I have edited the first 8 doubles, and added dressings, and a few hints on some of the other pics, as I have had a few messages asking for dressings etc.

Cock hackles are a must as Hen hackles will clag to the bodies, The body is the "hot spot" attractor . I fished the Tweed a couple of days ago and fished a Yellow Holographic bodied approx half inch tube ,& showed up like a shining star in the gin clear water,sunny day it was , never seen a fin all day ? pity there wasn't a fish or 2 about .

I hope some members on here will give them a drowning, don't give up if you don't catch first time, as we all have blank days,

Full S.S. Collection, as you can see I fish with only my dressings, I have way too many, but you gotta fill your close season days in somehow .

My other fishing boxes

Box 1.jpeg


Box 2.jpeg

Box 3.jpeg







The Full S.S. collection
all 7.jpeg
 
Last edited:
Top