Go back to all the arguments re the Dee C & R debates 10 years ago.If we the anglers ever hope to get something done how can we be seen killing fish and complain about Febs? That is just hypocritical surely?
I'm not say it's the answer to our fish returning but maybe/ hopefully just a start and the people with the powers to start the ball rolling are using this a the first stepping stone. nieve? Possibly, optimistic? Always.
I do not know the numbers of fish retained on the Tay last year but i would imagine it would be very small. Even when it was a recommendation by the board that all fish went back until 1st June then there were 1 or 2 beats ignoring this recommendation and killing springers and rumours were 1 beat a few year back killed over 50. Regarding the very small numbers of fish being retained then i see no problem with it as it is very small and most beats are CCR anyway. I do not see an argument regarding being hypocritical with FEB's as birds are killing massive numbers of fish (Yes they are Juveniles) but they are still Salmon & Sea Trout which are being the denied the chance to spawn exactly the same as a summer cock grilse which are being retained. Let us all remember that Anglers are the ones who are pumping the money into the fishery board and tipping the ghillies and staying at the Hotels and eating in the local restaurants. I do not see money being brought to the local economy by bird watchers up to see a merganser/cormorant/goosander .Who would you say is doing the most damage FEB's or anglers regarding salmon killed no matter the age ??
If someone has taken the beat for the week or say 3-4 rods for a week and is up on holiday then i see no harm in them being allowed 1 fish thus allowing them to take a small fish back to their lodge or hotel and have it cooked.
I think these CCR rules are pointless if honest (Look at the Dee) but if they are being implemented with a view to enable a bigger bird cull then i am all for it but caution needs to be taken and the right for anglers to retain small % salmon should always be protected and never lost in legislation.
Anyway as normal i will be out in January looking to get my first January fish as normal and i will be fishing in February as normal also. Funny how the prices never seem to come down when fishing is so poor.
The actual paragraph is abit vague to be honest as it says fish "should" be released not "must", the way i see it is.... we dont want you taking fish but arent going to do anything about it if you do.Has the grading changed for the Tay i.e. all fish go back dead or alive?
The actual paragraph is abit vague to be honest as it says fish "should" be released not "must", the way i see it is.... we dont want you taking fish but arent going to do anything about it if you do.
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The Board wanted M.S.S. to approve the legal implementation of 100% C % R on a year to year basis and were told that this move would upset the already well criticized categorization system throughout other river systems in Scotland. They then decided towards the end of the season, to canvass the Tay river proprietors for their views on the subject on a binding poll. The result returned as a slight majority for the amendment and this was considered not to be enough to persuade M.S.S. to reconsider and so moved towards issuing the new guidelines which remain voluntary outwith the legally binding spring period.
So there you are.
Some would say, including myself, that the recommendation is akin to turkeys voting for Christmas, but in reality, nothing changes. I can't see many beats refusing to allow a fish to be taken given the parlous state of lets but I do know of some that have adopted the rule already simply as a beat rule and will not allow any fish to be taken. The good thing about it is that at least badly bleeding fish can be despatched quickly and not forced to return them for a slow death. Best to check first if you feel strongly about it.:nod:
It’s a sad state of affairs when it a board considers it worthwhile to spend time and money asking MSS to give a legal basis to the board’s own half-baked ideas. There’s clearly little or no trust of at least some proprietors and anglers.
Why would SG upset the sainted categorisation system? What were they thinking? I can only guess they’ve ran out of ideas and can’t come up with anything else. Carry on like this and the river will be Cat 2 or 3 soon anyway.
The problem is that if you give someone a job they’ll try and do it, even if it’s pointless. For all the boards in Scotland this should be a salutary warning that the standard prescription for poor stocks doesn’t have any real life impact. This is:
Step 1: Restrict bait fishing
Step 2: Spring C&R
Step 3: C&R for everything but Grilse
Step 4: ‘Encourage’ full C&R
Step 5: ‘Require full C&R
Step 6: Ban some hooks
I guess if you only give a man a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
I will still be taking my four, or five visits. Ok, if im lucky enough to catch fish they will have to be returned, but I have been releasing fish, for the past 10 years. I also enjoy the company, and the craic. I can understand that if you would like to take the odd fish, this move would not be welcomed by you. When you compare the cost of a days fishing compared to a round of golf, on a good course, I dont think its too bad, and we get a full day. Im sure people will make their own minds up. This is only my own personal view, on the matter.