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BLM is far left, Britain First far Right. Most MSM is left leaning. Daily Star, whoever your god is, knows 😀

and before you get offended - the aspiration of raising issue of fairness/equality/ non bias is essence of what most people associate with BLM. But specially from their political stance/printed aims - you’d put them as neo Marxist
 

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BLM is far left, Britain First far Right. Most MSM is left leaning. Daily Star, whoever your god is, knows 😀

and before you get offended - the aspiration of raising issue of equality is essence of what most people associate with BLM. But specially from their political stance/printed aims - you’d put them as neo Marxist
BLM has some lefties who are members. The vast majority are not far left.
The "far right" aren't far right. They're just racists.
 

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BLM has some lefties who are members. The vast majority are not far left.
The "far right" aren't far right. They're just racists.
I wasn’t trying to stir the pot. Most people supporting BLM as a cause are not far left I know that, they want to highlight that things are biased. But specially as an organisation and a ‘manifesto’ - the key requests as BLM as a political movement is ‘far left’.
 

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I wasn’t trying to stir the pot. Most people supporting BLM as a cause are not far left I know that, they want to highlight that things are biased. But specially as an organisation and a ‘manifesto’ - the key requests as BLM as a political movement is ‘far left’.
I thought they were a human rights movement. Who made it political? (Not having a go at you but I just feel politics has no place where human rights and equality are concerned, it's not a political leaning, it's just being human)
 

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Back to the bias media....
10 minutes ago the BBC news reporters were squirming as the talked about "unconfirmed reports of rioting in Brixton last night".
A quick look on Twitter showed how incapable of reporting what has happened the BBC has become.
Two thoughts come to mind.
By downplaying what happened a large section (majority in fact) of the population get alienated.
Were the cops running away because the mayor wants to try and address the obvious problem in the stop and search/crime figures?
I await Lammy`s take on events with interest....
 

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some impact on ITV

nothing on BBC
Except this, I guess:
 

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I saw it on the BBC and heard it on BBC radio. It’s also rolling on BBC news 24. Apart from that yeah I guess they aren’t covering it
 

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I saw it on the BBC and heard it on BBC radio. It’s also rolling on BBC news 24. Apart from that yeah I guess they aren’t covering it
They're not covering it with the same... weirdness... as ITV. Direct cut and paste:

Home Secretary Priti Patel has described the events in Brixton as “utterly vile scenes”.

“These are utterly vile scenes,” Ms Patel tweeted.


Brilliant journalism.
 
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They're not covering it with the same... weirdness... as ITV. Direct cut and paste:

Home Secretary Priti Patel has described the events in Brixton as “utterly vile scenes”.

“These are utterly vile scenes,” Ms Patel tweeted.


Brilliant journalism.
well at least they are giving the facts - not their opinions which no one really wants?

yes i see the BBC coverage now, I searched 'Brixton riots'. BBC should get their keyword planning sorted out.
 

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well at least they are giving the facts - not their opinions which no one really wants?

yes i see the BBC coverage now, I searched 'Brixton riots'. BBC should get their keyword planning sorted out.
'Brixton riots' as a search term is dominated by the 1981 riots. If we're talking SEO strategy.

'Utterly vile scenes' would be..... an opinion?
 
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It’s not though is it. It’s the opinion of a highly controversial and discredited ex police officer and fanatical trump supporter.

No no no the mainstream media are all biased particularly the BBC. They have a charter which is in effect a contract with all license payers. They are obliged to provide fair and unbiased news. They are routinely scrutinised to ensure that they are honouring the terms of this charter. They do make some mistakes but usually take highly visible corrective action. Held up to a bastion of free and fair completely impartial and non racist speech. A highly controversial and discredited ex copper and fanatical cheerleader of Dr Satsuma is plainly wrong. Isn't it? 😬
 
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Back to the bias media....
10 minutes ago the BBC news reporters were squirming as the talked about "unconfirmed reports of rioting in Brixton last night".
A quick look on Twitter showed how incapable of reporting what has happened the BBC has become.
Two thoughts come to mind.
By downplaying what happened a large section (majority in fact) of the population get alienated.
Were the cops running away because the mayor wants to try and address the obvious problem in the stop and search/crime figures?
I await Lammy`s take on events with interest....
I posted this comment just after the BBC mentioned the Brixton incident for the first time. Since then the BBC has added more and more to the report.
But.
It appears reporters are in short supply within the BBC (replaced by presenters with an opinion), given it took so long to report what happened and the obvious problem the presenters had in actually reporting on what happened.
 

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I posted this comment just after the BBC mentioned the Brixton incident for the first time. Since then the BBC has added more and more to the report.
But.
It appears reporters are in short supply within the BBC (replaced by presenters with an opinion), given it took so long to report what happened and the obvious problem the presenters had in actually reporting on what happened.
It was a very similar situation re the police officers being assaulted a few weeks ago.
BBC had a small article in their local news.
Then it expanded.

I genuinely think they do this on purpose, and when these items get a head of steam on the interweb, they increase their coverage to seem impartial.

Its one area where I am in disagreement with PP.
The BBC does have a clear charter and contract with its funders, US!!!
But to me is exceptionally biased.
Not in what it says, but in what it omits to say in attemps to manipulate the public.

It will be a sad day when the BBC finally causes its own demise, but it hasn't been the BBC for a long time.
 

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Just read the article.
The mayor of London gets off exceedingly lightly again.
I would have thought this was one time when water canons would have saved a lot of police getting injured.
if only London had some!

Personally, I think its a disgrace that 20 odd police are injured and yet there are only 4 arrests.

Are we sanctioning brutality against the police now to see how they like it?
 

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It’s not though is it. It’s the opinion of a highly controversial and discredited ex police officer and fanatical trump supporter.
If you believe the Media that a serving Black police officer was discredited after years of service and knowledge of the problems first hand or is it that he supports Trump. A lot of Americans do despite the media and is why he will probably get re elected.
 

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If you believe the Media that a serving Black police officer was discredited after years of service and knowledge of the problems first hand or is it that he supports Trump. A lot of Americans do despite the media and is why he will probably get re elected.

That dude is... not in his right head. Look at all the lawsuits against him/his department, for brutality and what would be corporate manslaughter over here, in all honesty. A newborn baby denied medical attention, an inmate denied water for 7 days and left to die naked, of dehydration, while his fellow inmates screamed to save him. Clarke's attitude was callous, judged by his own words.

Why would you use someone like that to try and discredit a movement about police brutality?! The MSM reports the events. He discredited himself, when he made the decisions he did.
 
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It's not a good argument to say that the BBC are just the same as all the rest of the media, it drops the quality of the point away from the nuanced truth.

The point is that none of us should be weighing opinion from The Sun (or Communist Worker if you prefer) the same as opinion from the BBC. It is precisely because we have been conditioned to expect better that the BBC ias the Worlds best impartial reporting/media service that it sticks out when they fail to live up to it.

I think they are increasingly failing to live up to the expectations in roughly the same proportion as society dumbs down. The fact is that they are an anachronism. Some expect balanced truth however mass society expect to be entertained. Fail in that task and ratings slump, questions are asked and luvvies loose their jobs. Luvvies don't want to loose their jobs hence we all have to get liberal 'right on' news entertainment.
 

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Anyone here been to Brixton? You haven't missed anything. It's about three miles from home for me. I don't go there either. All the stuff further up the thread is all very well but someone has to deal with the mess that is here now, not just worry about the future. I just hope we get rid of the useless Khan as mayor and elect Shaun Bailey.
 

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'Brixton riots' as a search term is dominated by the 1981 riots. If we're talking SEO strategy.

'Utterly vile scenes' would be..... an opinion?
utterly vile scenes - picking up on Priti's statement

normally would lead to pornhub - doesn't get a look in now :D
 

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Luvvies don't want to loose their jobs hence we all have to get liberal 'right on' news entertainment.
What's the alternative? Daily Mail right wing new entertainment? The Canary left wing news entertainment? Said it before, will say it again - the fact that the BBC irritates everyone means they're doing their job. There is no such thing as impartial reporting of the news. It's pretty much impossible. The BBC's coverage of the Brixton riots is more impartial than ITV's - the article I linked to reports the facts, the ITV one adds narrative. The BBC is being held up as biased here. Look at the language. One is factual, one is emotive. The people here saying the coverage isn't impartial are looking it at through the lens they WANT to see - the lens that colours the rioters as savages and the police as helpless innocents - which is not impartial, and not helpful right now, while the people who have been arrested await processing and presumably others will be investigated as video footage emerges.

You guys don't want impartial. You want stuff that aligns with your world view. Fine, so do most people - but you need to recognise it.
 
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