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Yeah used to do that a bit when I course fished over middelton st George way had to be done or wouldn't last 2 mins would have tiny scissor marks all over the boilles like little surgeons knifes
fished the tees for many years gave up bait didn't last 2 mins
 

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I've never seen one on the wear have you mate? Wonder where the lad found it. Loads in my local the gaunless mind you
never seen one in river yet but i have netted a few in sharpley, they have cages in for them and fishing on the bottom at grassholme last time i went was impossible, they were on the bait in seconds
 

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never seen one in river yet but i have netted a few in sharpley, they have cages in for them and fishing on the bottom at grassholme last time i went was impossible, they were on the bait in seconds
I've had 1 on the fly at grassholme mate couldn't believe it ?
 
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The EA don’t issue licenses for them for a few reasons. The main reason being, If you were to use a bait net the ones you would catch are generally the bigger males, which removing these actually has negative affect on the population as they eat the smaller ones. So removing the big ones you can easily see just produces more signal crayfish long term.


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The EA don’t issue licenses for them for a few reasons. The main reason being, If you were to use a bait net the ones you would catch are generally the bigger males, which removing these actually has negative affect on the population as they eat the smaller ones. So removing the big ones you can easily see just produces more signal crayfish long term.


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Remove and eat them all!
 

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The trouble is, most folk can't tell the difference between juvenile signals and the native white clawed crayfish. The latter are highly protected and to trap, remove or even handle them, without the necessary licences, is an offence. You wouldn't want to encourage people to potentially commit an offence? Also, as Chris says, trapping inadvertently targets the larger crayfish, and thus removes a natural population control measure - it always leads to a dramatic increase in the numbers if smaller signals.
Until a suitable biological or chemical control is found, once they are in a river, then they ate there for good. Ironically, given that otters usually get a bad press, they absolutely love to eat signal crayfish!
 

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just to cheer things up new to the forum and essentially new to salmon fishing on the fly, had my fair share of sea trout and other fishies over the years but never met a salmon deliberately on the fly. so after not fishing for good while for various reasons and surviving quadruple by pass surgery last September, this summer i joined a club on the lower Wear and bought a new switch set up. first chance to get out yesterday because of work etc. not ideal conditions but dull overcast and mizzley thought why not. after struggling initially with the casting techniques i progressed down river fishing the faster waters. tried a few different flies from small tubes to alley shrimps, saw a couple of fish move and watched a school of about a dozen in one of the bigger pools all good fish. in true Mortimer style i lost my balance fell in water down the back of me waders. stopped fishing had a cuppa and moved down to a lovely stream and pool. casting much better fished through with alleys and then a cascade nowt, had a canny brown trout! but i new there were fish here, you know when you know. so 4.30 cup of tea change the fly to a small tube, gary dog i think? fished through a bit quicker this time and bang!! this beauty 15.4lb absolute belter, a little coloured but firm and well conditioned perfect autumn fish. Not bad 1st new water 1st new rod and 1st fly caught salmon. anyway keep up the interesting chat and be lucky
 

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Lgraydonflyfishing

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just to cheer things up new to the forum and essentially new to salmon fishing on the fly, had my fair share of sea trout and other fishies over the years but never met a salmon deliberately on the fly. so after not fishing for good while for various reasons and surviving quadruple by pass surgery last September, this summer i joined a club on the lower Wear and bought a new switch set up. first chance to get out yesterday because of work etc. not ideal conditions but dull overcast and mizzley thought why not. after struggling initially with the casting techniques i progressed down river fishing the faster waters. tried a few different flies from small tubes to alley shrimps, saw a couple of fish move and watched a school of about a dozen in one of the bigger pools all good fish. in true Mortimer style i lost my balance fell in water down the back of me waders. stopped fishing had a cuppa and moved down to a lovely stream and pool. casting much better fished through with alleys and then a cascade nowt, had a canny brown trout! but i new there were fish here, you know when you know. so 4.30 cup of tea change the fly to a small tube, gary dog i think? fished through a bit quicker this time and bang!! this beauty 15.4lb absolute belter, a little coloured but firm and well conditioned perfect autumn fish. Not bad 1st new water 1st new rod and 1st fly caught salmon. anyway keep up the interesting chat and be lucky
Congrats mate a lovely fish well done. Welcome to the crazy wear forum be careful some members may bite ??
 

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The trouble is, most folk can't tell the difference between juvenile signals and the native white clawed crayfish. The latter are highly protected and to trap, remove or even handle them, without the necessary licences, is an offence. You wouldn't want to encourage people to potentially commit an offence? Also, as Chris says, trapping inadvertently targets the larger crayfish, and thus removes a natural population control measure - it always leads to a dramatic increase in the numbers if smaller signals.
Until a suitable biological or chemical control is found, once they are in a river, then they ate there for good. Ironically, given that otters usually get a bad press, they absolutely love to eat signal crayfish!
Look on you tube how they devastate life in a Yorkshire stream probably why the tees is knackered .I was getting over dozen trout to 2 pound summer flood all returned Gainford to Winston within 5 years of been in stockton AA nothing just the line twitching baits coming back mangled stripped. Took me years to get in that club lovely water packed it in.Forget about fishing in the wear if they gain a foot hold .
 

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Having a read back threw the years thread some brilliant ways and methods to catch fish mentioned. 100% need to try them slim surface lures walleye they look the real deal. Rain in the forecast lads hopefully you all get a good chance at a big salmo before we put the rods away. Wish you all the best of luck for the last month on the wear ? ?
 

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The EA don’t issue licenses for them for a few reasons. The main reason being, If you were to use a bait net the ones you would catch are generally the bigger males, which removing these actually has negative affect on the population as they eat the smaller ones. So removing the big ones you can easily see just produces more signal crayfish long term.


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please dont listen to anything the EA say about crayfish they no even less about them than fish. there is an arbitrary line north and south of the Humber that they refuse to budge on regarding where you can get a licence to catch crayfish. there info on size id false old and inaccurate data that they use to try and defend they wont issues licences because essential they are free and there is no revenue from them. the essential reason is also to do with mis identification of the species between native and non native and and also it is in there eye a deterrent from selling the signals to a ready made market and stopping further spread through unauthorised stocking which is how these creatures are virtually everywhere now! people thinking its a good idea to put these creatures anywhere so they can harvest them the feckin ejits. the EA;s stance despite been proved negative in the north of England is little short of obstructive and obstinate, despite repeated call by many including DEFRA they refused to change their stance on trapping and licences meanwhile people just carry on dumping them every where much to the detriment of the environment because you cant do anything about. we showed them on Blagdon estate river Blyth what limited trapping could do if carried out correctly and systematically removing all life stages from small to large and sold handsomely profits going directly back into river management. their crayfish 'expert' didnt take being upstaged to well and put the blocker on further licenced removal and the EA refused to listen to any pressure from Lord Ridley and DEFRA ministers. their entire stance on crayfish is backwards and has created havoc in those practitioners trying to do something about them their stance locally is there is nothing we can do.

not related but noted an earlier post referring to otters being introduced to the rivers here, No otters have ever been introduced to any rivers north of south Yorkshire where a limited release of some rehabilitated animals was carried out in the late seventies early 80's. no further reintroductions have taken place since then and especially up here. every otter here got here by itself from the early 90s onward nobody put them here, there has been a steady increase in spread on the wear following further increases naturally further north and subsequently south. ill get my coat:):)
 
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just to cheer things up new to the forum and essentially new to salmon fishing on the fly, had my fair share of sea trout and other fishies over the years but never met a salmon deliberately on the fly. so after not fishing for good while for various reasons and surviving quadruple by pass surgery last September, this summer i joined a club on the lower Wear and bought a new switch set up. first chance to get out yesterday because of work etc. not ideal conditions but dull overcast and mizzley thought why not. after struggling initially with the casting techniques i progressed down river fishing the faster waters. tried a few different flies from small tubes to alley shrimps, saw a couple of fish move and watched a school of about a dozen in one of the bigger pools all good fish. in true Mortimer style i lost my balance fell in water down the back of me waders. stopped fishing had a cuppa and moved down to a lovely stream and pool. casting much better fished through with alleys and then a cascade nowt, had a canny brown trout! but i new there were fish here, you know when you know. so 4.30 cup of tea change the fly to a small tube, gary dog i think? fished through a bit quicker this time and bang!! this beauty 15.4lb absolute belter, a little coloured but firm and well conditioned perfect autumn fish. Not bad 1st new water 1st new rod and 1st fly caught salmon. anyway keep up the interesting chat and be lucky

Well done, great start to your pursuit of salmon.


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Look on you tube how they devastate life in a Yorkshire stream probably why the tees is knackered .I was getting over dozen trout to 2 pound summer flood all returned Gainford to Winston within 5 years of been in stockton AA nothing just the line twitching baits coming back mangled stripped. Took me years to get in that club lovely water packed it in.Forget about fishing in the wear if they gain a foot hold .

In what way is the Tees knackered? It has far better trout & grayling both size & numbers. The migratories are recovering & it has the potential to be one of the best rivers in the future.


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Well done, great start to your pursuit of salmon.


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cheers Im still buzzing, its just one of those things iv never really set to get one on the fly, had them on lures and prawns even bread and worms when chubbing on the wear. this year i just said i was going to get one on the fly and there you go brilliant i shall be out tomorrow to for another go
 

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just to cheer things up new to the forum and essentially new to salmon fishing on the fly, had my fair share of sea trout and other fishies over the years but never met a salmon deliberately on the fly. so after not fishing for good while for various reasons and surviving quadruple by pass surgery last September, this summer i joined a club on the lower Wear and bought a new switch set up. first chance to get out yesterday because of work etc. not ideal conditions but dull overcast and mizzley thought why not. after struggling initially with the casting techniques i progressed down river fishing the faster waters. tried a few different flies from small tubes to alley shrimps, saw a couple of fish move and watched a school of about a dozen in one of the bigger pools all good fish. in true Mortimer style i lost my balance fell in water down the back of me waders. stopped fishing had a cuppa and moved down to a lovely stream and pool. casting much better fished through with alleys and then a cascade nowt, had a canny brown trout! but i new there were fish here, you know when you know. so 4.30 cup of tea change the fly to a small tube, gary dog i think? fished through a bit quicker this time and bang!! this beauty 15.4lb absolute belter, a little coloured but firm and well conditioned perfect autumn fish. Not bad 1st new water 1st new rod and 1st fly caught salmon. anyway keep up the interesting chat and be lucky
Cracking fish and report. Love that!!
 

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Well lads You know what they say No Smoke Without Fire.Just had best pal on the phone telling me what he witnessed today.
His friend lives on the same road as a bloke who keeps dogs and was shifting some stuff into the garage when his mate arrived home from another barren day on the wear On exchanging greetings the bloke asked what his neighbour had caught and a despondent blank yet again was the answer,
The dog owners answer floored my mate,, There are loads in the wear according to my pal he said its been full down below fatfield.Ive just been to his place to get a load of salmon for the dogs.The lad was flabbergasted and asked where from and was told where this lad and his palls were from and that they had been netting the lower river since may and couldn't get rid of them all as they had been getting so many...

What F@@k@@g hope have we got with this going on.He was was offered a Fresh salmon as the bloke said they're really too good to feed the dogs You talk about insult to injury,, Chances are these are the same lads whose nets were discovered earlier this season A new set of nets and away we go again,, Good night Vienna Where are the Bailifs
 
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