River Wear 2020

[Bushwhacker]

Do you still fish the Hardy‘s Demon in 13 feet ? I like my Hardy‘s Gem 13 feet and also the Demon.

The Demon i had was 15ft.I did use a 13ft Vision Nite catapult for a long time.I now use a 12-6 in low water and a 14ft Vision Tool in high.

 

[Sperlash]

i hope there is still alot of salmon to run because reported numbers have been gash

Ive been out and about all week and seen about half a dozen fish.Mates down river at chester seeing a very odd fish so dont hold your breathThe fish that have been caught up this end are all summer fish and basically residents moving from section to section on the lifts were having..I was sat with a mate I hadnt talked too for years reminiscing about the 1980s and early 90s when he stated some pretty unbelivable statistics...The difference between the runs in the 90s when the counter started (And in reality i feel werent as good as the 80s from first hand experience)and the runs reported last year were at least 80 percent down...So in reality for every 10 fish we had then we are lucky to have 2 now and people saying the rivers doing well Being on the river all my life ive never seen it like this before (apart from last year)..Fingers crossed and hoping but i think were in for another record low run yet again..

 

[reedwarbler]

Ive been out and about all week and seen about half a dozen fish.Mates down river at chester seeing a very odd fish so dont hold your breathThe fish that have been caught up this end are all summer fish and basically residents moving from section to section on the lifts were having..I was sat with a mate I hadnt talked too for years reminiscing about the 1980s and early 90s when he stated some pretty unbelivable statistics...The difference between the runs in the 90s when the counter started (And in reality i feel werent as good as the 80s from first hand experience)and the runs reported last year were at least 80 percent down...So in reality for every 10 fish we had then we are lucky to have 2 now and people saying the rivers doing well Being on the river all my life ive never seen it like this before (apart from last year)..Fingers crossed and hoping but i think were in for another record low run yet again..
[/QUOTE Got to agree with you mate, ive fished the river from the the seventies,
and the river is a shadow of what it used to be, such a shame, to see its decline,
and i cannot see how it is going to recover, in the near future.

 

[reedwarbler]

Got to agree with you mate, ive fished the river from the the seventies,
and the river is a shadow of what it used to be, such a shame, to see its decline,
and i cannot see how it is going to recover, in the near future.

 

[Lgraydonflyfishing]

What do you think could be done lads to try and recover some numbers to the river. There must be something what has happened... eg. Big numbers one year then low the next? What happened during that time or the years before which could of affected numbers, do we see bad floods then low counts for a few years, extremely dry seasons then low counts etc etc. How can the river go from 20 thousand count just a few years ago to 4k+ last season. What has happened in the meantime to produce them numbers

 

[greenlaner2009]

Are we paying the price of 50 years of unregulated stocking. The seatrout are the ones in decline since the upturn in the numbers of salmon.

 

[Whenty1]

It’s the same on most rivers we’re ****ing it all up a it’s the way we live , massive knock on effect of everything out at sea and on land , only time and a big effort from the virus that is plaugeing this planet (us humans ) will cure it !
But it can be done other countries have managed to bring rivers back !
Had this double cock fish yesterday!

 

[Walleye]

Ive been out and about all week and seen about half a dozen fish.Mates down river at chester seeing a very odd fish so dont hold your breathThe fish that have been caught up this end are all summer fish and basically residents moving from section to section on the lifts were having..I was sat with a mate I hadnt talked too for years reminiscing about the 1980s and early 90s when he stated some pretty unbelivable statistics...The difference between the runs in the 90s when the counter started (And in reality i feel werent as good as the 80s from first hand experience)and the runs reported last year were at least 80 percent down...So in reality for every 10 fish we had then we are lucky to have 2 now and people saying the rivers doing well Being on the river all my life ive never seen it like this before (apart from last year)..Fingers crossed and hoping but i think were in for another record low run yet again..

The river had similar runs in the mid 90's around 1995 which was as dry a year as 2018. It recovered then, hopefully it will do as well.

 

[Lgraydonflyfishing]

Like the tyne too how was last season count 50% less than the season before from 34k too 17k

 

[lax0341]

What do you think could be done lads to try and recover some numbers to the river. There must be something what has happened... eg. Big numbers one year then low the next? What happened during that time or the years before which could of affected numbers, do we see bad floods then low counts for a few years, extremely dry seasons then low counts etc etc. How can the river go from 20 thousand count just a few years ago to 4k+ last season. What has happened in the meantime to produce them numbers

I fear it‘s the explosion of the predators everywhere. One cormorant eats nearly one pound of fish per day. Not to speak about the seals and so on. Also the amount of insects has dropped sharply from the nineties until nowadays.
IMO the only way which could help could be to introduce a well managed hatchery for salmon and seatrout like the do in Danmark.

 

[Lgraydonflyfishing]

I fear it‘s the explosion of the predators everywhere. One cormorant eat nearly one pound of fish per day. Not to speak about the seals and so on. Also the amount of insects has dropped sharply from the nineties until nowadays.
IMO the only way which could help could be to introduce a well managed hatchery for salmon and seatrout like the do in Danmark.

Agree with the predators mate but not the hatcheries.

 

[Walleye]

All the Wear clubs should take up their license to shoot FEBs. Some clubs take it up, others don't. There'd be plenty volunteers if clubs are short of shooters.

 

[reedwarbler]

The next thing will be a compulsory C&A slapped on by the EA

 

[Lgraydonflyfishing]

The next thing will be a compulsory C&A slapped on by the EA

Yep absolutely clueless mate. Punish the fisherman who absolutely care about the river and the fish. Be single barbless hooks next. All to justify there incompetence

 

[Bushwhacker]

I fear it‘s the explosion of the predators everywhere. One cormorant eat nearly one pound of fish per day. Not to speak about the seals and so on. Also the amount of insects has dropped sharply from the nineties until nowadays.
IMO the only way which could help could be to introduce a well managed hatchery for salmon and seatrout like the do in Danmark.

There,s ten times the amount of Goosanders to Cormorants mate.
As lads above have said,its rubbish now to what it used to be.And its not only the game fish.Practically all the Coarse fish have gone.Just the odd big Barbel and Chub.
Also at Durham and below,the fly life has disappeared.This means most of the food is not there for young fish.
A couple of years ago i put my Gopro on a long pole and ran it through 5 pools at Durham.I never saw one Parr or any other type fish.
As i,v said many times.If there,s no Smolts going to sea,there,s definitely no grown ups coming back.

 

[Whenty1]

To much intensive farming , not enough flowering plants meadows left for insect life , to many chemicals leaching out of ground int water systems , to much bleach n household chemicals that don’t breakdown going in the water ways , the pill that stops women getting pregnant can make fish infertile netting out at sea , the list goes on !
All the chickens are gonna come home to roost soon !

 

[lax0341]

There,s ten times the amount of Goosanders to Cormorants mate.
As lads above have said,its rubbish now to what it used to be.And its not only the game fish.Practically all the Coarse fish have gone.Just the odd big Barbel and Chub.
Also at Durham and below,the fly life has disappeared.This means most of the food is not there for young fish.
A couple of years ago i put my Gopro on a long pole and ran it through 5 pools at Durham.I never saw one Parr or any other type fish.
As i,v said many times.If there,s no Smolts going to sea,there,s definitely no grown ups coming back.

I don‘t know how many gramms of fish a single goosander eats per day. But I have scientific studies about the amout of fish a single cormorant eats per day. In my remembering it is by far the biggest amount of fish which a single predator bird eats per day.

 

[Whenty1]

I’ve seen Cormorants destroying shoals of big roach and taking them as big as 2-3lb also have found dead fish with big holes in their sides from them getting away , we shoot them on my mates lake but the more u shoot more come back !

 

[greenlaner2009]

I fear it‘s the explosion of the predators everywhere. One cormorant eats nearly one pound of fish per day. Not to speak about the seals and so on. Also the amount of insects has dropped sharply from the nineties until nowadays.
IMO the only way which could help could be to introduce a well managed hatchery for salmon and seatrout like the do in Danmark.

Would that be a hatchery like on the tyne, which has achieved nothing.

 

[Isisalar]

Aparantly playing a recording of a Cormorant being strangled is very effective at keeping them away.

 

[lax0341]

Would that be a hatchery like on the tyne, which has achieved nothing.

I fear that. Have a look au the hatcheries on the rivers Skjern Aa and Storaa in Danmark.
They work very well but their management is excellent and very intense and time consuming.

 

[greenlaner2009]

I fear that. Have a look au the hatcheries on the rivers Skjern Aa and Storaa in Danmark.
They work very well but their management is excellent and very intense and time consuming.

Who pays for it?

 

[lax0341]

Who pays for it?

The government and the fishing clubs. You have to pay also a fee when you buy license and permit.

 

[Daventus]

Not tried the Shakespeare switch rods just 13’ Spey n have to say I prefer it to my hardy demon , I have a Scott Mackenzie 11’2 7/8 switch wich is an awesome rod when the flow isn’t to heavy but when there is a good spate with fast water n big heavy flies I find the 13’ a bit easier to work with !

Shaky better than the Demon .what size is it and do you want to sell it

 

[Whenty1]

Shaky better than the Demon .what size is it and do you want to sell it

I’m not saying they are better rods I’m just saying I prefer the action , every ones different , I have the 12,9’ 8/9wt not ready to sell it yet as only just got the 2020 oracle Spey , probs not sell anyways ! to be honest rod brands/names mean nowt to me the majority of blanks are all made in same way and place anyways !
It’s funny I’ve got loads of rods , n me favourite’s are the cheapest !