River Tyne 2020

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If i manage to hook one on the tyne i will have done better than last season. Didnt put a load of time in last year though.

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If i manage to hook one on the tyne i will have done better than last season. Didnt put a load of time in last year though.

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Do you fish FED water Rrrr?
Hope you all have a good season!
 

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Do you fish FED water Rrrr?
Hope you all have a good season!
Yea the fed water, a few lads had decent seasons on the tyne but i mostly fished the coquet last year as it had plenty water for once.
Also tight lines to all fishing.

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Happy New Year all,

Does anyone know when the 2020 release schedule gets sorted?

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Yes all the best lads. Hope 2020 is another great year on the Tyne system.

On Bywell the first week in April so fingers crossed they are have a better year than last!
 

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Yes all the best lads. Hope 2020 is another great year on the Tyne system.

On Bywell the first week in April so fingers crossed they are have a better year than last!
Ill chase them upstream with my splashy casting at merryshields

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I understand Dilston and Lambley have gone catch and release this season. Does anybody know of other beats going the same way this season and will it also apply to Sea Trout ?

I have only ever taken the odd fish (partly because I only often catch the odd fish), but catching and eating something provides a justification for catching it in the first place - as opposed to leaving it in peace. I dont intend giving up yet, but I suppose that makes me a bit of a hypocrite!
 

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The feds not going catch and release yet but does have a few new rules, no worming, no flying cs, no spinning in feb and oct and also c and r in october.

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I think that Chipchase has been asking for C&R for salmon for a few years now, though they didn't mind you taking an odd sea trout. Having said that, I also know that the rules sometimes are bent!
 

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I think that Chipchase has been asking for C&R for salmon for a few years now, though they didn't mind you taking an odd sea trout. Having said that, I also know that the rules sometimes are bent!
If its not written into the byelaws or into the water leases like the fed rules then i cant see anyone forcing a paying guest to return a fish if they insist on keeping it.

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If its not written into the byelaws or into the water leases like the fed rules then i cant see anyone forcing a paying guest to return a fish if they insist on keeping it.
It rather depends whether the guest wants to fish there again! Lots of places ask for and expect C&R - even though in Scotland they may be on a Cat 1 river where C&R isn't the law - and this is made clear to any rods new to the beat. At Chipchase the rules are (or were, the times I fished there) posted up in the cottage where rods usually stay. In theory there is nothing to stop a rod killing a fish even if they're been asked not to, but I know for sure that there are places that you wouldn't get back to if you did so! If the fish is killed with the agreement of a gillie, or the proprietor, that's obviously a different story.
 

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It rather depends whether the guest wants to fish there again! Lots of places ask for and expect C&R - even though in Scotland they may be on a Cat 1 river where C&R isn't the law - and this is made clear to any rods new to the beat. At Chipchase the rules are (or were, the times I fished there) posted up in the cottage where rods usually stay. In theory there is nothing to stop a rod killing a fish even if they're been asked not to, but I know for sure that there are places that you wouldn't get back to if you did so! If the fish is killed with the agreement of a gillie, or the proprietor, that's obviously a different story.
All of mine go back anyway as i dont eat them but i can see other anglers complaining about it.
As long as the beats declare the rules before taking the bookings then i dont see it as an issue.

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I’ve heard countess park too chesters was to be catch and release this season, we are below countess and definitely are full catch and release this year although the club is pushing for tags to keep one or two fish.
I kept one last season Caught on a competition day and to win the prize money you needed it for the weigh in.. in hindsight I would of put it back like the others I caught but I do like salmon and half of it is still in the freezer for a special occasion.
Lot of members have left the club because of it , I’ve heard banning spinning is next .. so there will be about 6 of us left if that gets pushed through.
 
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I'm afraid Tyne fishers (and probably all fishers) will see Catch and release become mandatory on ALL beats.

I fish the Eden and Border Esk, we have had C&R forced on us, by the rule of Law, not volunteered by the various beats ( we did offer a compromise to the EA, in the form of tagging and 90% voluntary C&R) but the EA steamrollered over us !

We are allowed to take a small number of seatrout, I don't believe any angler in the current climate is going fishing to put food on the table !

Christ they are hard enough to catch already, if you do catch a salmon your faced with a moral conundrum, is it a Hen ( you wouldn't) too big (again you couldn't) too coloured (come on man) a springer ( like hens teeth, no chance)

A fish to take is a bonus, a day you'll never forget, a prize to be remembered and enjoyed with family or friends,
I do like to eat wild migratory fish, but only take an odd seatrout, the EA are coming for us, or those of us who are left !

Our club has lost over half of its memebers, YES, a lot of old boys who liked to take more than they should, but also a LOT of decent anglers who just wanted to have THE CHOICE !

We are an easy target, over here we have been at the EA for nearly 10 years, we've proved their figures are WRONG, proved they have lied and twisted facts, we have pressed them for action on predator birds, pollution, habitat improvement, stocking, fish counting, egg disposition figures,etc, etc, the group pushing for change need to be given knighthoods !

The result is continuing bluster and poor data, someone told me a few years ago, the EA won't be happy until we ALL stop fishing !

God help us !
 

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Itl be intresting to see if bywell, styford and farnley etc follow suit.

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The good thing about being ‘probably not at risk’ is that Anglers can choose to keep a fish. The made up category doesn’t mean anything else.

In order to retain the ‘probably not at risk’ status we think we should return all fish just like they do on the ‘probably at risk’ and ‘at risk’ rivers.

i.e. In order to stop them telling us what to do, we’re going to do it anyway ;). With all the experience from many rivers over many years, does anyone actually believe it’ll make a difference?

It is a meaningless gesture which will simply result in less folk fishing and relatively less fish caught and less chance of being ‘not at risk’ in the future. The Owners need to wake up, it’s not the Dee and banning Spinning is almost guaranteed to cut off the pipeline of new ‘C&R aware’ fisher folk who are supposed to flood in to replace the dinosaurs like me (41 and a half)

Catch 22, the Salmon Fishing version. ;)
 

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The good thing about being ‘probably not at risk’ is that Anglers can choose to keep a fish. The made up category doesn’t mean anything else.

In order to retain the ‘probably not at risk’ status we think we should return all fish just like they do on the ‘probably at risk’ and ‘at risk’ rivers.

i.e. In order to stop them telling us what to do, we’re going to do it anyway ;). With all the experience from many rivers over many years, does anyone actually believe it’ll make a difference?

It is a meaningless gesture which will simply result in less folk fishing and relatively less fish caught and less chance of being ‘not at risk’ in the future. The Owners need to wake up, it’s not the Dee and banning Spinning is almost guaranteed to cut off the pipeline of new ‘C&R aware’ fisher folk who are supposed to flood in to replace the dinosaurs like me (41 and a half)

Catch 22, the Salmon Fishing version. ;)
I really cant see it making any diffrence at all, its a case of being seen to be doing something positive.
If the bigger beats and clubs want to make a change then chip in to pay for extra production at kielder.
Alot of anglers put their fish back anyway but being told they have to rubs people up the wrong way.
Also if im going to put my fish back anyway then it makes no diffrence at all wether i catch it spinning or on the fly, same if you are keeping a fish.

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My honest opinion? and not just the Tyne,but all rivers?.Make the most of this season folks,I think its our last.We know C+R makes no difference, neither do barbless hooks, or no trebles, or flee only.There's sod all fish about right now, how many have been taken so far from those rivers that are open?, its all deathly quiet.I think this year it will really hit home, there's sod all fish.Not just here and Atlantics and Sea Trout, but Pacific's and Steelies in USA/Canada, every where's on their downers.
It'll matter not one jot what we do, it's all going to be taken out of our hands!
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I really cant see it making any diffrence at all, its a case of being seen to be doing something positive.
If the bigger beats and clubs want to make a change then chip in to pay for extra production at kielder.
Alot of anglers put their fish back anyway but being told they have to rubs people up the wrong way.
Also if im going to put my fish back anyway then it makes no diffrence at all wether i catch it spinning or on the fly, same if you are keeping a fish.

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I realise the fishery owners are in a tricky position and feel they have to be seen to do something - even though we all know its window dressing and not the reason or solution to the problem.

But I wonder if the Tyne owners maybe possibly over estimating the demand and feel bullet proof whatever they do ?

The reason I say that, is because over the past 5 years many people who previously fished the now diminished C&R rivers of the Solway have gravitated to the Tyne. If the Tyne now also has poor autumn runs (and is also C&R), why not fish the solway for half or third of the price - or not bother to fish at all ?

Could the Tyne have introduced a tag system (as in Ireland) to be seen to be doing something, and stop a few fishmongers in the process ? Maybe bookings will hold up anyway and the above is not the case?

Unfortunately once C&R has been established, I cant see it being rescinded should stocks ever recover - perhaps due to a massive reduction of the seal population by virus. It will forever be diminished to something similar to hitting golf balls at a range.
 
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