Old reels on modern rods

Chicharito

Well-known member
Messages
2,794
Reaction score
848
Location
HUDDERSFIELD
Has anyone had problems fitting old reels onto modern rods. I want to fish with a Hardy Viscount 150 on my Hardy Swift MkII 11 1/2 ft , but it is a really tight fit . Have Hardys made their reel fittings smaller ?

I had the same problem with an old Greys GRXI reel and had to replace the reel foot with a new one from Hardys.
Funnily enough my JW Youngs Pridex reel made in 1963 fits perfectly.
 

ardrossspecial

Member
Banned
Messages
534
Reaction score
0
Location
Highlands of Scotland
Has anyone had problems fitting old reels onto modern rods. I want to fish with a Hardy Viscount 150 on my Hardy Swift MkII 11 1/2 ft , but it is a really tight fit . Have Hardys made their reel fittings smaller ?

I had the same problem with an old Greys GRXI reel and had to replace the reel foot with a new one from Hardys.
Funnily enough my JW Youngs Pridex reel made in 1963 fits perfectly.

dont think this is uncommon...recently discovered that an old system2 fitted a new Sage, but a newer model system 2 didnt,,,,the answer was to file down the thickness of the reel seat, just a little,,,,but maybe you dont want to do that!!!!
 

Chicharito

Well-known member
Messages
2,794
Reaction score
848
Location
HUDDERSFIELD
No , one of the Viscounts is in immaculate condition so theres no way I would want to file them down !
I think its a marketing ploy to get people to buy new reels !

I think my next question is going to be how do you get a stuck reel off a rod !
 

pond.olive

Member
Messages
545
Reaction score
10
Location
By river and covert.
This problem comes up regularly on Spey Pages, the American forum. The answer is always the same: Don't file the foot, do fit a new reel fitting to the rod, or get a specialist engineer to machine a new foot for the reel. Over there Archuleta is the man, over here it's garry@milltackle.co.uk. He's pretty darned good. He has recently machined down a Perfect nickel-silver line guide for me to take out some deep line grooves. You need to look hard to see that its been done. Fantastic work. He tells me that he can fit a new reel foot to most Perfects. I shall have one done soon.

HTH
TL
Richard
 

Glyn

New member
Messages
152
Reaction score
0
Location
Swansea Sometimes Sunny
I have a 9/10 65ft floater on my Roybi 4" and a 65ft 10/11 floater on my Shakespear green condex both which I still use ...any reel that doesnt fit a rod gets its toes clipped, unless you are putting your reels in a glass case for others to gaze at or sell the reel for profit I dont have a problem with light filing the foot down to fit a rod. In fact I am pleased with my ingenuity to get a favoured reel back in use, a quick file and dab of grey primer and off I go and it saves a huge a mount of money on a large capacity new reel.

The reels above are not expensive by any means even if I paid £500 for a reel and it didnt fit.. it would get filed its going on that rod some shape with out any more expense.
cheers Glyn:)
 
Last edited:

Chicharito

Well-known member
Messages
2,794
Reaction score
848
Location
HUDDERSFIELD
Old reels on modern rods

What do you find best for light filing ? I might be tempted on one of my older tattier reels.
 

Glyn

New member
Messages
152
Reaction score
0
Location
Swansea Sometimes Sunny
lol a light file is'nt too far off the mark, I just use a small half round smooth cut file care must be taken not to over do it of course. Lots of reel foots/feet are chrome or some other finish coated brass and are easy to take down, every 4 or 5 strokes with the file check it with the rod fitting for fit. I checked last night the amount of reels I have re sized and it came to 5 reels, so all in all 5 reels are back in service fit all my rods work at treat and saved me re buying new reels....cool.
Glyn:)
 
Last edited:

Chicharito

Well-known member
Messages
2,794
Reaction score
848
Location
HUDDERSFIELD
Thanks for your advice Glyn , I am no expert when it comes to DIY and wouldnt know one file from another.
I have re-checked my rods and I think only a light filing is required as the reels fit on all my rods but a little too snugly !
Cheers :)
 

Glyn

New member
Messages
152
Reaction score
0
Location
Swansea Sometimes Sunny
Oh right ...if its a bit off the sides as the barbour would say it shouldn't be too hard to do when enough has been taken off put a bit of paint on the filed section and it should be fine for you..good luck.
Glyn :)
Any hardware store will have a file for you and only cost a few quid prob B&Q have them too.
 
Last edited:

ABK

Active member
Messages
709
Reaction score
44
Location
AYRSHIRE
dont think this is uncommon...recently discovered that an old system2 fitted a new Sage, but a newer model system 2 didnt,,,,the answer was to file down the thickness of the reel seat, just a little,,,,but maybe you dont want to do that!!!!

Does anyone know if the older system 2 reels fit Loop rods. The newer model System 2's dont, which is a bit of a shame.
 
Last edited:

silver seeker

Well-known member
Messages
2,256
Reaction score
207
Location
Derry
Yes they do ABK just bought one the other day on ebay and it arrived today, tried it on my loop classic and its fits nicely.Looking for a spare spool now.
sean
 

ABK

Active member
Messages
709
Reaction score
44
Location
AYRSHIRE
Many thanks......just to clarify by the older System 2's are we talking about the ones which have an unventilated spool.
 

albyn73

New member
Banned
Messages
578
Reaction score
2
Location
ALBA
lol a light file is'nt too far off the mark, I just use a small half round smooth cut file care must be taken not to over do it of course. Lots of reel foots/feet are chrome or some other finish coated brass and are easy to take down, every 4 or 5 strokes with the file check it with the rod fitting for fit. I checked last night the amount of reels I have re sized and it came to 5 reels, so all in all 5 reels are back in service fit all my rods work at treat and saved me re buying new reels....cool.
Glyn:)

A little light smooth flat file about 5" long as you dont want to take away too much brass, if it is brass?

I did my Youngs/Daiwa 813 salmon reel and to get the enamel off I had to scrape it off right at the points first of all, then work back about 1/2", then use Glass paper as that was the only thing that would thake the brass away quickly. I did manage it OK, even though its still not perfect, but it will suffice for now.

Good Luck to all.
 

fly guy

New member
Messages
2,189
Reaction score
3
Location
Scottish Highlands (Salmon heaven)
No , one of the Viscounts is in immaculate condition so theres no way I would want to file them down !
I think its a marketing ploy to get people to buy new reels !

I think my next question is going to be how do you get a stuck reel off a rod !
Did you get the reel off? If not a small section of wood, about 1" x 1", roughly 18"long. Get someone to grip the cork handle of the rod, whilst you place the piece of wood centred against the reel, grip both sides of the wood and GENTLY pull. Should work a treat. Mine did!
 

Chicharito

Well-known member
Messages
2,794
Reaction score
848
Location
HUDDERSFIELD
Did you get the reel off? If not a small section of wood, about 1" x 1", roughly 18"long. Get someone to grip the cork handle of the rod, whilst you place the piece of wood centred against the reel, grip both sides of the wood and GENTLY pull. Should work a treat. Mine did!

I was only asking the question hypothetically , but there was a real chance of one of the reels getting stuck ! I have now filed down one of the reels and it fits a treat. The other one I am going to leave as it will fit ok on another rod. I will bear your tip in my mind should I get myself in that predicament.
 
Top