Longer trout rods.

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Hi folks. Has anyone used any of the longer trout rods for grisle/sea trout?

I'm looking at the agility2 #7 in 10 or 11ft as these come with the added handle which should make shooting heads easier to flick out.
Not really wanting a switch rod that needs 300 grain plus to load it.
 

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Better with the 11 if its for wick keeps it away from some off bankside weed beds .i used fish wick with trout rod but now use switch rod
 

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I have used a Diawa Lochmore Z 11'3" with an extension handle using trout weight forward 7-9 lines in low water on the Thurso and Stinchar. To be fair it was mainly overhead casting.

You can get switch rods rated for trout which would give need a much lower grain weight that you mentioned and spey profile lines to suit.
 
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I have used a Diawa Lochmore Z 11'3" with an extension handle using trout weight forward 7-9 lines in low water on the Thurso and Stinchar. To be fair it was mainly overhead casting.

You can get switch rods rated for trout which would give need a much lower grain weight that you mentioned and spey profile lines to suit.
Is there many people doing the trout spey rods yet ? I was looking as i prefer a double handed rod and fancied going after brownies again next summer but there seems to be only a couple of people selling them in the uk and limited lines etc.

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Is there many people doing the trout spey rods yet ? I was looking as i prefer a double handed rod and fancied going after brownies again next summer but there seems to be only a couple of people selling them in the uk and limited lines etc.

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I've got a 12' 6wt double hander. I tend to use it mainly single handed which rather defeats the object as it's a heavy rod to use single handed all day!
 

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I've got a 12' 6wt double hander. I tend to use it mainly single handed which rather defeats the object as it's a heavy rod to use single handed all day!
I was looking at these small 5 and 6 weight rods they are starting to use in america now, they look like good fun but arent really mass market yet.

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Sage used to make an 11ft 3” 6wt 2 piece rod. They are now very sought after.

I think Mick Bell at Bloke rods now sells ‘long’ single handers. If they are anywhere near as good as his ‘normal’ single handers, they will be good.
 

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I use to fish a 10ft class 8 single hander sometimes in the late spring and summer in Ireland and Denmark. It’s a Hardy Gem Mk 1
3piece rod and very comfortable for such circumstances.
 

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I use a 11ft 3in, 7/8wt trout rod with a wf8 line that has handled some decent summer fish on my local river Thurso pretty efficiently in low water conditions. Has a small screw in butt extension if I need it. Its a Sonik SK4 and I cant fault it since it was first bought.
 

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I have a sage one 11ft 6” 4wt switch rod. It’s very nice. I use it to practice my Spey casting by fishing for trout. I use the Airflo switch floater in a 270 or 300gr which does everything I need it to. It’s a great little rod but I had to get it in the US when on a business trip. Got a very good price though
 

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If you have a look on eBay from time to time you might see a Sage XP 11ft 6 weight, great rod which is lightweight, gives great reach and not too harsh action. A few pop up on eBay.
 

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I have been thinking on the B&W 10FT 6 for a 8, poss getting handle made double handed rather than extension.
It kind of worries me fishing for Salmon as low as #5/6 lines. and it becoming the fish plays you not the otherway round. fish being exhausted by overly long battle.
I have a 11ft 4 weight and a 10ft 3weight for trout and grayling wet fly and bugging, had sea trout up to 4lb browns to 3lb on, Still in control but it can take a bit longer. And they give a good show of therselves. I used to use a 9ft 3weight for dry fly with rainbows from a drifting boat with fish in excess of 5lb and it takes time, i gave up as it was taking a while to revive fish at times.
I just feel you should tackle with the target species in mind, and rods down to 5/6 weight were not designed for salmon. Imagine a lively grilse having you all over the place or a good summer salmon. on deep solid runs.
A lot of modern rods i think are built and designed more designed as casting tools and made as light thin walled blanks, and are not as compotent as others in a main aspect to play a fish with a bit of command when needed. To the point my modern salmon rods are all gone now and replaced by B&W Norways and Speycasters and Lohric built blanks, which i have always liked
Just had a senior moment a mate had a B&W think it was a silver century (or was that a seagull outboard) 11ft 3" 5/7 lines sold as a grilse rod. had a through action you could feel the power from the butt, you could lift a floating line and shoot a good distance no false casts , It was like you leaned back slowly on backcast and then forward on forward cast, that was a powerfull rod for an 11ft 5/7 Slow full parabolic action that you could feel the corks opening up on long cast or good fish.
 
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It was the B&W Century Grilse , Mr T.
I had one.
Powerful rod.
 

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I have been thinking on the B&W 10FT 6 for a 8, poss getting handle made double handed rather than extension.
It kind of worries me fishing for Salmon as low as #5/6 lines. and it becoming the fish plays you not the otherway round. fish being exhausted by overly long battle.
I have a 11ft 4 weight and a 10ft 3weight for trout and grayling wet fly and bugging, had sea trout up to 4lb browns to 3lb on, Still in control but it can take a bit longer. And they give a good show of therselves. I used to use a 9ft 3weight for dry fly with rainbows from a drifting boat with fish in excess of 5lb and it takes time, i gave up as it was taking a while to revive fish at times.
I just feel you should tackle with the target species in mind, and rods down to 5/6 weight were not designed for salmon. Imagine a lively grilse having you all over the place or a good summer salmon. on deep solid runs.
A lot of modern rods i think are built and designed more designed as casting tools and made as light thin walled blanks, and are not as compotent as others in a main aspect to play a fish with a bit of command when needed. To the point my modern salmon rods are all gone now and replaced by B&W Norways and Speycasters and Lohric built blanks, which i have always liked
Just had a senior moment a mate had a B&W think it was a silver century (or was that a seagull outboard) 11ft 3" 5/7 lines sold as a grilse rod. had a through action you could feel the power from the butt, you could lift a floating line and shoot a good distance no false casts , It was like you leaned back slowly on backcast and then forward on forward cast, that was a powerfull rod for an 11ft 5/7 Slow full parabolic action that you could feel the corks opening up on long cast or good fish.

This is a very good point. There definitely is a balance to playing the fish safely and enjoying the fight.
I've used a #5 trout rod in salt water and the sea trout are great fun but definitely swim off stronger when caught on the #7
I've found casting a longer leader easier on a heavier rod too.
 

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This is a very good point. There definitely is a balance to playing the fish safely and enjoying the fight.
I've used a #5 trout rod in salt water and the sea trout are great fun but definitely swim off stronger when caught on the #7
I've found casting a longer leader easier on a heavier rod too.

Fishing effectivley also comes into it, what if you want down a bit cones/beads brass tungsten, lead foil wire, tips or poly leaders. I hate when you have a line out and the rod has a bend in it from the tow of the flow. Taken some of the fighting power out the blank
 

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I bought a B&W Powerlite 11' 3'', #6, 3 pc, from Fawcett's back in '96. It was about £150 then and has non-standard B&W reel fittings, a fighting butt and claret whips on snake eyes. I bought it for Heb. drift fishing for salmon but found it too heavy for a full days outing and neglected it for about 20 years. Then I dug it out for evening sea trouting on the Spey and really enjoyed it, particularly with a #7 line and for only a couple of hours at a time. It did catch me an 8 lb sea trout one night and the curve in that fine, long blank against the dying light remains one of my best fishing memories.
While it will roll a WF line out nicely enough it doesn't have a 'micro-Spey' lower grip, just the f/butt and I principally overhead with it.

Best of luck finding something which suits you, just keep an eye on the weight factor if you're of average build/strength.
 

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Sage used to make an 11ft 3” 6wt 2 piece rod. They are now very sought after.

I think Mick Bell at Bloke rods now sells ‘long’ single handers. If they are anywhere near as good as his ‘normal’ single handers, they will be good.


I have one of these 11ft 3" 6wt 2 pice Sage rods sitting doing nothing. How "sought after" are they?
 

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I had the Bruce & Walker Century 11’3” #4-6 in the 70s/early 80’s and I used it for bank & boat fishing for trout and for sea trout at night. I had a Masterline Revolution Neutral Density line that I used to grease up for floater fishing and de-grease for casting across the wind with small wets and buzzers. It was a staggeringly good line in a crosswind, only sinking an inch or two to fish a straight, slow retrieve.

When replacing a broken Scierra rod on insurance in the late 90’s I saw a secondhand one and took it out for a trial. I couldn’t believe how heavy and sloppy it now felt and wondered why I loved it so much in the first place. I ended up with a Grey’s Platinum X 10ft #7 which is still one of the best rods I’ve ever had.
 

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I've gone with a rod from the states. 11' 240grain spey rated. Should overhead a #5 and plan to use barrio SLX #7 for poly leaders and simple scandi casts.
 
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