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Perrypokemon

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He had a bounce back then which he won't get now - just look at his popularity and Labours popularity over the last few years - squarely on a downward trend.

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Jeremy is clearly no saint as it turns out either...

Jeremy Corbyn's 40 years of plots, lies, intimidation and chaos | Daily Mail Online

Oscar.


Charlie, while I am no particular cheerleader of Corbyn I am not going to take seriously anything featured in the Daily Mail or Mail Online written about him. You must concede that neither are known for their political impartiality, neutrality and sometimes not even for telling the truth. For my own part I will concede that the publications improved slightly when Paul Dacre was mo longer involved. Both are still however not publications I would ever view as without extreme bias.
 
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I thought it was the immigration policies of the previous Labour Government that had done that, they didn't have to sign up to their open immigration policy, subsequently Jack Straw has apologised ... half the Labour lot have never had a job outside politics, Corbyn has milked the system for the last 30 years and the half are millionaires and you think that they are in touch with the people? Its funny. :)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e1l1XGiXgo0

As relevant today as it was 30 years ago..
 
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I'll be voting for Labour as, while my seat isn't a marginal, Labour are the only chance we have of unseating the Tories. I like the candidate they are putting forward - she's a former teacher, fairly socialist.

It's a Leave constituency and the current MP is a hard Brexiteer, but Boris Johnson is NOT liked locally. It will be interesting to see what happens.

I'm not voting along Brexit lines. If I was, I'd have to go Lib Dem or maybe Green. And I'm not voting for the leader, as all the leaders are equally awful. I'm voting for policies. Assuming the Labour Party manifesto is akin to the 2017 jobbie, that's where my heart still lies.
 

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I suppose if you live in leafy lovelyshire with private health care and you dont need the bizzies, you dont care about the sick,unemployed and the homeless because its all their own fault well crack on with the tories, me I will vote for whoever offers the cleanest break brexit, though I think it will be another hung parliament and more stagnation and obfuscation while the country rots, labour has returned to blairism spit and the lib dems, well I would rather swim through a lake of spew. :)
 

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I'll be voting for Labour as, while my seat isn't a marginal, Labour are the only chance we have of unseating the Tories. I like the candidate they are putting forward - she's a former teacher, fairly socialist.

It's a Leave constituency and the current MP is a hard Brexiteer, but Boris Johnson is NOT liked locally. It will be interesting to see what happens.

I'm not voting along Brexit lines. If I was, I'd have to go Lib Dem or maybe Green. And I'm not voting for the leader, as all the leaders are equally awful. I'm voting for policies. Assuming the Labour Party manifesto is akin to the 2017 jobbie, that's where my heart still lies.
Is that the manifesto where they were honouring the outcome of the referendum or another pack of lies?
 

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Neither are the current government.
Whether you like it or not , it’s that simple.
They are an utter disgrace.
I wouldn't disagree but, as is often the case, it's the lesser of 2 evils
 

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Please feel at liberty to correct me but serving the Conservative Party in Leeds for 24 years would hardly make him an office junior would it?
I'm sure if you are from Leeds you may have heard of him but to try and compare him to someone like Ian Austin is a bit silly.
 

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Thankfully , I have more than two choices.
Lucky you! I believe either Corbyn or Boris will be the next PM and I believe Corbyn will ruin my life and my children's future should he win.
 

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Lucky you! I believe either Corbyn or Boris will be the next PM and I believe Corbyn will ruin my life and my children's future should he win.
Lucky indeed.
But what really amazes me is that England is about to be cast adrift and left to fend for herself in this world of ours , and that very few of you seem to have wakened up to the fact.

Your arrogance , and sense of entitlement , astound me.
 
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I'm sure if you are from Leeds you may have heard of him but to try and compare him to someone like Ian Austin is a bit silly.
Nicky Morgan said Johnson was unfit to govern when she resigned. She’s a biggie.
 

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I'm sure if you are from Leeds you may have heard of him but to try and compare him to someone like Ian Austin is a bit silly.

If you care to read my post again I didn't compare him to Ian Austin or anybody else for that matter. I said that Labour are not the only party with senior members suggesting that people cast their vote elsewhere. For what it's worth Ian Austin is no longer a Labour Party member. He became an independent in February this year. Dr Jsaon Aldiss was still a Conservative Party member this week.
 

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Nicky Morgan said Johnson was unfit to govern when she resigned. She’s a biggie.
It wasn't so much that he said he wasn't fit to govern it was more the reasons that resonated with me.
 

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It wasn't so much that he said he wasn't fit to govern it was more the reasons that resonated with me.
And that’s fine. Just - they’re no more right or wrong than the reasons of all the resigning Tory candidates. The ones that have joined the Lib Dems. But we have the intense media focus on the Labour dude.
 

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And that’s fine. Just - they’re no more right or wrong than the reasons of all the resigning Tory candidates. The ones that have joined the Lib Dems. But we have the intense media focus on the Labour dude.
Personally I think anti semitism is now firmly endemic in the hard left I find that totally abhorrent. I don't see how it's in any way connected to remainers joining the LDs.
 

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I find the "intense media focus on Labour" bit interesting. IMHO there's no wonder since they appear to have sold Leave constituencies down the river and it's really very hard to understand their policy on Brexit, but the recent narrative of them being victimised in the press (other than the usual rubbish suspects) has even been rebuffed by none other champion of unbiased reporting than the BBC

General election 2019: 'Misleading' Abbott tweet used in Labour campaign - BBC News

viz:

"Diane Abbott is facing criticism for posting a "misleading" tweet, which has been shared widely across social media and even used in Labour-affiliated advertising.

The shadow home secretary compared the media coverage of ex-Labour MP Ian Austin saying he would vote for the Conservatives with the coverage of former Tory MP Ken Clarke when he spoke of being conflicted about voting for his old party in the election.

She tweeted: "Ian Austin, one year as a junior minister at DCLG, says he won't vote for Labour. Wall-to-wall coverage. Ken Clarke, nine years as secretary of state, including as chancellor, says he won't vote for the Conservatives. Silence. Balanced election coverage?"

According to independent fact-checking organisation Full Fact, Ms Abbott's tweet is incorrect and misleading.

"While it's true that the two sets of comments received different levels of media attention, Ms Abbott's phrasing doesn't portray them entirely accurately, overstating what Ken Clarke said and implying the two sets of comments to be more similar than they are," it said.

"Mr Austin didn't just say he personally wouldn't vote Labour this election… he explicitly called on Labour voters to vote for the Conservatives. Meanwhile Ken Clarke did not say he 'won't vote for the Conservatives'...

Despite criticism of it by Full Fact, an image of the tweet was shared by the official Labour Party Instagram account. The account has 90,000 followers, and the post has so far attracted more than 6,200 likes and almost 300 comments.

It has also been shared on Facebook by Ms Abbott, as well as Labour supporting groups, receiving around 4,000 interactions.

The tweet is also being used as a paid-for advert on Facebook and Instagram, funded by a Labour-affiliated group called Labour Future.

The organisation says on its website it is a group at "the cutting edge of modern campaigning", and it is working with Labour to "add value" and help the party win the election."




More media spin and marketing BS we need to be vigilant agin'...



I'll be voting for Labour as, while my seat isn't a marginal, Labour are the only chance we have of unseating the Tories. I like the candidate they are putting forward - she's a former teacher, fairly socialist.

It's a Leave constituency and the current MP is a hard Brexiteer, but Boris Johnson is NOT liked locally. It will be interesting to see what happens.

I'm not voting along Brexit lines. If I was, I'd have to go Lib Dem or maybe Green. And I'm not voting for the leader, as all the leaders are equally awful. I'm voting for policies. Assuming the Labour Party manifesto is akin to the 2017 jobbie, that's where my heart still lies.
I could be wrong, but have a vague recollection of you actually praising a your local Tory candidate when he campaigned round your end last time round (right-on son of miner, "whoop", IIRC?)

Mind, you are very lucky to have a Hard Brexiteer MP in a majority Leave constituency mind, whole swathes of the (English) North and Midlands are bereft of such representation.

Mine is a Leave constituency with a long-term incumbent Labour MP with a record of voting to frustrate Brexit [not quite as bad as Walleye's (IIRC his Labour MP took to the press to tell his constituents how thick they were a la the clip of Spitting Image above, :eek: )] but the same story repeated over the land.

With a bit of luck my tactical vote will help unseat the smug fool :cool:


I'll put this up again as we'll no doubt be returning to the thread come Xmas, here's a likely outcome in Leeds:

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