Advice Buying New Computer /Laptop / Tablet

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I couldnt get my 6 year old Hewlett Packard Desktop to boot this morning.

By going through the system recovery options, I have managed to restore it back to the original windows 7 - not what I intended as I obviously wanted to restore it back to my free upgrade to Windows 10.

That didnt happen and I couldnt find an option to make that happen - in my probable ignorance / stupidity.

I suspect windows 7 will be too slow / unreliable / incompatible with a lot of the latest software, so i seem to have the options of paying £100 for Windows 10 software , or buying another computer; the free upgrade to windows 10 is no longer available.

As my HP is 6 years old I wonder if it is due to breakdown (hardware) some time soon anyway.

I am completely out of date with all things IT, and interested to know what other would do ! Have tablets replaced laptops; could I buy a cheap laptop and plug my monitor into that; are there any bargain desktops available at the moment?

I mainly use my computer for browsing the web and playing CD's - I dont do gaming or store massive numbers of photos .

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Lenovo Thinkpad.........My last one lasted 10 years and I upgraded bits to increase capacity etc. Still working when I stuck it in the attic. In the end bought a reconditioned one to my own spec and its been going strong ever since.
I'm sure other will suggests alternatives:thumb:
This thread I suspect will be moved to the lounge once the forum polis see it!:shocked:
 

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Lenovo Thinkpad.........My last one lasted 10 years and I upgraded bits to increase capacity etc. Still working when I stuck it in the attic. In the end bought a reconditioned one to my own spec and its been going strong ever since.
I'm sure other will suggests alternatives:thumb:
This thread I suspect will be moved to the lounge once the forum polis see it!:shocked:

Thanks for the reply - I will look into that.

I suppose I confused General with Lounge - its been one of those mornings!
 

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Windows 7 is more than fine some may argue better(i still use 7), you can also still get windows 10 for free.
I have a friend with a lenovo laptop and he has spent a long time removing all the unwanted things they install on it without telling you so id stay clear of them.
 
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Lenovo Thinkpad.........My last one lasted 10 years and I upgraded bits to increase capacity etc. Still working when I stuck it in the attic. In the end bought a reconditioned one to my own spec and its been going strong ever since.
I'm sure other will suggests alternatives:thumb:
This thread I suspect will be moved to the lounge once the forum polis see it!:shocked:

Lenovo Thinkpad agreed

Biggest bit of advice to add longevity to your laptop..............stay off the porn

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As leckytech said “save your money” Windows 7 will be fine. OR if you’d rather have Windows 10 you can go to e-bay and Purchase the Windows 10 activation code. That’s what I done. My old laptop broke down and I had a another spare tucked away that had Windows 7 as the operating system and seeing as there were no more FREE upgrades I was told that the activation code could be bought on e-bay for less than £5.

I went to e-bay and bought the activation code for £3.45 from a reputable seller. They sent me the code via e-mail, I went to the settings and typed in the code, two minutes later I had windows 10 it really was as simple as that and like you all I ever do is browse. Give it a go you’ve got nothing to loose



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ebay tesco argos outlets reconditined unused old new stock lots of electrical buy it now or bid
 
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I have Lenovos for work and they seem pretty bomb proof. Heard a lot of good things about the MS surface if you’re thinking of something a bit flashier
 

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Windows 7 is more than fine some may argue better(i still use 7), you can also still get windows 10 for free.
I have a friend with a lenovo laptop and he has spent a long time removing all the unwanted things they install on it without telling you so id stay clear of them.

Eh?....."Unwanted things"??......You spec what you want and get only what you want which is what I did.
 

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Lenovo every time.

My first lenovo laptop was 10 years old when I changed it. It's still working perfectly but I have replaced it with another Lenovo just in case!
 

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Another bit of advice whatever system you run - PC or Mac; keep everything backed up regularly. Your hard drive will fail sometime. You just don't know when.
 
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W10 is a downgrade on W7 ime.

As for PCs, any low end PC is fine for 99.9% of the population.

Stick with what you've got, if you only browse it's all you need. Save your money for a new fishing rod which you definitely do need.
 

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Eh?....."Unwanted things"??......You spec what you want and get only what you want which is what I did.

I don't remember the specifics off the top of my head but he said it came with tons of bloatware and that there is forums out there to help fix Lenovo laptops they have so many issues, his was part of a batch with faulty screen and ssd.
 

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Lenovo

I'm work in IT and I have a Lenovo Yoga Pro 3, a Tab 3 pro and bought a Tab 7 for the young lad. If all you do is browse, I have a Lenovo G770 17.5" 16GBRAM i7 for sale.

I could put in a SSD of your choice for a few quid and could sell it to you for a reasonable price?
 

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What pc

I couldnt get my 6 year old Hewlett Packard Desktop to boot this morning.

By going through the system recovery options, I have managed to restore it back to the original windows 7 - not what I intended as I obviously wanted to restore it back to my free upgrade to Windows 10.

That didnt happen and I couldnt find an option to make that happen - in my probable ignorance / stupidity.

I suspect windows 7 will be too slow / unreliable / incompatible with a lot of the latest software, so i seem to have the options of paying £100 for Windows 10 software , or buying another computer; the free upgrade to windows 10 is no longer available.

As my HP is 6 years old I wonder if it is due to breakdown (hardware) some time soon anyway.

I am completely out of date with all things IT, and interested to know what other would do ! Have tablets replaced laptops; could I buy a cheap laptop and plug my monitor into that; are there any bargain desktops available at the moment?

I mainly use my computer for browsing the web and playing CD's - I dont do gaming or store massive numbers of photos .

Thanks

What pc well what have you got now and why is it not booting up? is it windows or mac? windows?????? yes? So either format the whole PC and re install windows that should be enough to do it IF all the hardware is working,yer may have sticky ram in which case a swap of ram will be enough to sort it out.
If it is just all clogged up with spam and malware which windows always attarcts,a formay and re-install will be enough.
Now if the pc is old like the one i am using now a sony vaio win 7 ! i can tell yer a way to make it like new and you will never ever get a virus in a million years-how? go onto Linux site and download a free copy of a very geeky operating system,they is so many dists - dists are distributions to suit any sort of need and they are all free,they are called open susse os systems,so for a six year old pc that has had it or yer think it has had its days,i rec Linux mint,now if yer unsure how to burn to disk and verify iso i can help as im studying all this at college,mint looks like windows in the layout but is far superior,let me explain one or two things,windows is capped so you become reliant upon it,apps are a total killer and so to is malware,that 9 times out of ten is the cause along with a shop bought pc that has all its setting at default so a doctor a scientist or surfer can use as soon as its is powered up.
Back to dists,linux mint cinnamon desktop that is the one that looks like windows layout,or you could opt for unbuntu they all part of the same family,yer can even write code and make ya own custom os that will hammer the living daylight out of windows.So mint and ubuntu differences well ubuntu is deb based and i think mint is unix might be wrong but,yer can also get light versions/ what are them? well mint is a few gig in size on a dvd )bootable or VM) yer could run it all from a usb stick and carry the stick and use in any pc even a mates pc your os will show up,so lite systems well most are in gigabytes how ever yer can get stripped down types,now if ya only using the net for emails and surfing salmon fishing forums ebay etc faceboom a lite version will make that old pc seem as though its power by anti matter from a alien planet yes that fast....light versions are in Mbytes only like windows 98,so if yer dont use a fax machine thats ok cos it comes with nothing to run one but if ya do simply install a one.

downloading with linux.nah it dont happen everything is done from the command line for example
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so for an update type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install && upgrade that will update and upgrade everything even the os if need be but to that type sudo apt-get dist upgarde and that will also upgrade the full thing...many things can be done from here

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so right click the google link and open,not sure how it opens from here but it always opens faster than a broser on the desktop.

some types of linux come with tools some dont,i started out with mint then ubuntu and even tried zorin on a old xp machine and got it running for the old girl next door to where we live.
i also used lubuntu a lite version and thought it was the fastest os i ever used on a laptop.
After that i tried KALI LINUX which is what im usuing now-well this is dads Pc he out so im having MY GO :D

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these are a mere fraction of the tools that come with kali,most well nearly all are pent testing tools,each and every one of them farts the head depo when trying to use and has took me and dad a few months to get our heads around,so the tools what they do? well yer can do anything as the command line in linux is from anotehr far away alien planet !! example,yer can see at anytime who is trying to connect to your pc,you can stop and blcok easily,you can test your network(s) for weaknesses and if any ports can be comprimised-all windows are targets by the way each and every one of them,i reckon that a person gets hacked at least once a week over the yr unknowingly of course.
You can tarck any person you like with permision of course,yer can set up a geo ip tracker and see where your kids are at any given time via a small online map with co-ordinates etc yer can ever track any cell phone and have a message/beep when they are in range of yor device,handy for the private investigator,you will be able to detect spam in online pics,this is how the kine your data and how men seem to get men things in the spam box and women get offered women things ever wondered how this is done? well they hide a script inside a jpeg or any other image even a email,the second its opened or viewed theynhave your IP address and sometimes mac address,thats it that all they need from them two adds they can scan the network within 27 seconds using them details and get back ;your name address,pc user name,browsing hsitory,emails,tel numbers,geo location (house address come up also) if you have open ports,if you are firewalled which to be very honest makes no difference as any one at any time can enter a pc for data mining like this,but with these glitches that then opens the door for the hacker.
Me and dad never use virus dectection as they isnt any for linux only windows,as for fire wall well if any one wants to be in they can do so at any time with out us knowing unless we monitor,so whats the point,we dont get malware as all that is written for windows by mostly linux users.
So kali is a pent test system a white hat hacking system but in any oes hands can be ablack hat hacking platform.But that is down to the indeviduel person...not the actions of the system.
marks out of ten 20!!! that good any of the dists,start with Linux MInt bring that old pc back to oife and rid your self once and for all from the TRAINING shoes of windows.
After using this once you get used to the layout i promise you will never ever turn back.
I mined 13 ethrium coins in 90 minutes using kali linux,not recomended for new user as all your ports are open in root mode,thats simialr to admin mode in windows,but way better,so in the mining forums i was reading post which went like this " i mined one coin in 48 hours,some one else mined one in 36 hours ooowww but 13 in 90 minutes all worth ?? well free money is always good took 3 days fro the confrimation email to get back then coped the code to cyrpto wallet then sold them ended up in the end with $368 USA -in less than a week,best thing is we didnt even know we had mined anything until dad was reading through emails....

But for best ever security and never ever any viruses or malware kali linux for me is amazing.
Now one more thing the idea of swapping is daunting so buy a disk from ebay linux mint start with that,now if ya want you can do this,get yer old pc to boot from cd/dvd rom not hdd (hardrive or usb) theys a way for usb ill expalin in a minute,boot from dvd drive,so get the old battle axe to eventually start,put the cd/dvd in the drive,yer going to wait for ages mind,sorry do this before yer set the dvd drive to first boot so swuitch on as normal chuck the disk in then wait a good few minutes mu guess is that yerl be waiting ahile with a clogged pc,then it will look like linux when this happens you have two choices either boot from desktop or install there and then,you WILL get the option to run with windows its ok but please dont as in the end it will buckle,so you have two choice two os on one drive but only ever install linux by it self.
now yer can also boot from start up so when it starts you will get the black screen with white writing that looks like its from the 80s,thats better in a way so install from here,it will ask the normal questions country ling etc time zones,also click the update now button and let it do its thing,once yer done say 30 mins if that remoive the dsik reboot and job done then use duckduckgo.co never google that tarcks and sends you unwanted stuff.ask duck duck go which is similar to google with out the spying search 20 things to do after linux mint.kali.ubuntu/zorin what ever,it will guide you easily and if you get stuck ask me and ill be happy to help.
none of the versions come with beach bit you will have to install that your self so make that your very first install bleach bit...as used by hillary clinton-says that on the page,with this script you should never ever have a bad pc it can be set to auto clean when shutdown and cleans as its getting used its free so hillary was well ripped off when she erased them emails :eek:
In Kali some of the actions of the software may be ilegal if you execute them with out permision of the website owner or personal user on pc oor device thathas ip address or mac addresses.
So when dad goes fishing with out me and if he says he just going local,i can track his where abouts,for his safety as he getting on a bit now.Via his mobile fone.;) that can be done with anyone as long as you have their phone number or email add (IP ADDRESS)
All this can be done with windows but its a pure pain in the backside as the system is rubbish.
Deep wen is known for being slow as a gang of snails in a hurry..but with kali Tor browser works as fast or faster than windows browser,other words it works fine for unindexed searching and onion sites.

If you do decideto try linux to bring the old pc back to life and give it the respect it deserves,and you come accross hurdles PM me :thumb:

PS me and dad well dad mostly are in the process of making our own custom os system-so when its done we could send you a version of it of you like and you can even send it to linux direct to get them to check for hacks or fixes..
 

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What pc well what have you got now and why is it not booting up? is it windows or mac? windows?????? yes? So either format the whole PC and re install windows that should be enough to do it IF all the hardware is working,yer may have sticky ram in which case a swap of ram will be enough to sort it out.
If it is just all clogged up with spam and malware which windows always attarcts,a formay and re-install will be enough.
Now if the pc is old like the one i am using now a sony vaio win 7 ! i can tell yer a way to make it like new and you will never ever get a virus in a million years-how? go onto Linux site and download a free copy of a very geeky operating system,they is so many dists - dists are distributions to suit any sort of need and they are all free,they are called open susse os systems,so for a six year old pc that has had it or yer think it has had its days,i rec Linux mint,now if yer unsure how to burn to disk and verify iso i can help as im studying all this at college,mint looks like windows in the layout but is far superior,let me explain one or two things,windows is capped so you become reliant upon it,apps are a total killer and so to is malware,that 9 times out of ten is the cause along with a shop bought pc that has all its setting at default so a doctor a scientist or surfer can use as soon as its is powered up.
Back to dists,linux mint cinnamon desktop that is the one that looks like windows layout,or you could opt for unbuntu they all part of the same family,yer can even write code and make ya own custom os that will hammer the living daylight out of windows.So mint and ubuntu differences well ubuntu is deb based and i think mint is unix might be wrong but,yer can also get light versions/ what are them? well mint is a few gig in size on a dvd )bootable or VM) yer could run it all from a usb stick and carry the stick and use in any pc even a mates pc your os will show up,so lite systems well most are in gigabytes how ever yer can get stripped down types,now if ya only using the net for emails and surfing salmon fishing forums ebay etc faceboom a lite version will make that old pc seem as though its power by anti matter from a alien planet yes that fast....light versions are in Mbytes only like windows 98,so if yer dont use a fax machine thats ok cos it comes with nothing to run one but if ya do simply install a one.

downloading with linux.nah it dont happen everything is done from the command line for example
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so for an update type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install && upgrade that will update and upgrade everything even the os if need be but to that type sudo apt-get dist upgarde and that will also upgrade the full thing...many things can be done from here

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so right click the google link and open,not sure how it opens from here but it always opens faster than a broser on the desktop.

some types of linux come with tools some dont,i started out with mint then ubuntu and even tried zorin on a old xp machine and got it running for the old girl next door to where we live.
i also used lubuntu a lite version and thought it was the fastest os i ever used on a laptop.
After that i tried KALI LINUX which is what im usuing now-well this is dads Pc he out so im having MY GO :D

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these are a mere fraction of the tools that come with kali,most well nearly all are pent testing tools,each and every one of them farts the head depo when trying to use and has took me and dad a few months to get our heads around,so the tools what they do? well yer can do anything as the command line in linux is from anotehr far away alien planet !! example,yer can see at anytime who is trying to connect to your pc,you can stop and blcok easily,you can test your network(s) for weaknesses and if any ports can be comprimised-all windows are targets by the way each and every one of them,i reckon that a person gets hacked at least once a week over the yr unknowingly of course.
You can tarck any person you like with permision of course,yer can set up a geo ip tracker and see where your kids are at any given time via a small online map with co-ordinates etc yer can ever track any cell phone and have a message/beep when they are in range of yor device,handy for the private investigator,you will be able to detect spam in online pics,this is how the kine your data and how men seem to get men things in the spam box and women get offered women things ever wondered how this is done? well they hide a script inside a jpeg or any other image even a email,the second its opened or viewed theynhave your IP address and sometimes mac address,thats it that all they need from them two adds they can scan the network within 27 seconds using them details and get back ;your name address,pc user name,browsing hsitory,emails,tel numbers,geo location (house address come up also) if you have open ports,if you are firewalled which to be very honest makes no difference as any one at any time can enter a pc for data mining like this,but with these glitches that then opens the door for the hacker.
Me and dad never use virus dectection as they isnt any for linux only windows,as for fire wall well if any one wants to be in they can do so at any time with out us knowing unless we monitor,so whats the point,we dont get malware as all that is written for windows by mostly linux users.
So kali is a pent test system a white hat hacking system but in any oes hands can be ablack hat hacking platform.But that is down to the indeviduel person...not the actions of the system.
marks out of ten 20!!! that good any of the dists,start with Linux MInt bring that old pc back to oife and rid your self once and for all from the TRAINING shoes of windows.
After using this once you get used to the layout i promise you will never ever turn back.
I mined 13 ethrium coins in 90 minutes using kali linux,not recomended for new user as all your ports are open in root mode,thats simialr to admin mode in windows,but way better,so in the mining forums i was reading post which went like this " i mined one coin in 48 hours,some one else mined one in 36 hours ooowww but 13 in 90 minutes all worth ?? well free money is always good took 3 days fro the confrimation email to get back then coped the code to cyrpto wallet then sold them ended up in the end with $368 USA -in less than a week,best thing is we didnt even know we had mined anything until dad was reading through emails....

But for best ever security and never ever any viruses or malware kali linux for me is amazing.
Now one more thing the idea of swapping is daunting so buy a disk from ebay linux mint start with that,now if ya want you can do this,get yer old pc to boot from cd/dvd rom not hdd (hardrive or usb) theys a way for usb ill expalin in a minute,boot from dvd drive,so get the old battle axe to eventually start,put the cd/dvd in the drive,yer going to wait for ages mind,sorry do this before yer set the dvd drive to first boot so swuitch on as normal chuck the disk in then wait a good few minutes mu guess is that yerl be waiting ahile with a clogged pc,then it will look like linux when this happens you have two choices either boot from desktop or install there and then,you WILL get the option to run with windows its ok but please dont as in the end it will buckle,so you have two choice two os on one drive but only ever install linux by it self.
now yer can also boot from start up so when it starts you will get the black screen with white writing that looks like its from the 80s,thats better in a way so install from here,it will ask the normal questions country ling etc time zones,also click the update now button and let it do its thing,once yer done say 30 mins if that remoive the dsik reboot and job done then use duckduckgo.co never google that tarcks and sends you unwanted stuff.ask duck duck go which is similar to google with out the spying search 20 things to do after linux mint.kali.ubuntu/zorin what ever,it will guide you easily and if you get stuck ask me and ill be happy to help.
none of the versions come with beach bit you will have to install that your self so make that your very first install bleach bit...as used by hillary clinton-says that on the page,with this script you should never ever have a bad pc it can be set to auto clean when shutdown and cleans as its getting used its free so hillary was well ripped off when she erased them emails :eek:
In Kali some of the actions of the software may be ilegal if you execute them with out permision of the website owner or personal user on pc oor device thathas ip address or mac addresses.
So when dad goes fishing with out me and if he says he just going local,i can track his where abouts,for his safety as he getting on a bit now.Via his mobile fone.;) that can be done with anyone as long as you have their phone number or email add (IP ADDRESS)
All this can be done with windows but its a pure pain in the backside as the system is rubbish.
Deep wen is known for being slow as a gang of snails in a hurry..but with kali Tor browser works as fast or faster than windows browser,other words it works fine for unindexed searching and onion sites.

If you do decideto try linux to bring the old pc back to life and give it the respect it deserves,and you come accross hurdles PM me :thumb:

PS me and dad well dad mostly are in the process of making our own custom os system-so when its done we could send you a version of it of you like and you can even send it to linux direct to get them to check for hacks or fixes..

How long did it take you write all this:wow:..........Well done Junior Angler 2001:thumb:
This must be one of the longest posts ever:amen:
 

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How long did it take you write all this:wow:..........Well done Junior Angler 2001:thumb:
This must be one of the longest posts ever:amen:


Not too long i had some spare time earlier on and after seeing the post i thought i would give it my best shot.
Linux Mint is the better one to start with.

Here is a few examples of linux

First linux mint diff looks

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there is 3 examples of how mint can look,it has many more options to change layouts as you wish and if need be you can create your own by learning a bit of coding.
That is what is known as a cinnamon desktop very similar in appearance to windows type desktops.

Next is Ubuntu,slightly outdated as far as mint is concerned but what a operating system,makes any windows PC from vista upwards into a belting system,the interface is different and with out looking i forgot the name of it,i think it maybe Gnome 3? or kde.But as with all desktops in Linux they can be changed to suit any needs.

Ubuntu

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Next Lubuntu the super lite version that runs as fast as rocket on its way to mars.

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But as i said earlier in the post,they is hundreds of different Linux dists to choose from.I also for got to mention that it's never a good idea to partition the hard drive and have the choice of windows or linux,make your mind up what you want or try them both together as a choice when booting up,but really in the long run windows needs to be rid of then all the problems associated with pcs and running windows will finally go forever.But you can with no problems what so ever have as many Linux dists on one hard drive or indeed USB stick,so in effect linux mint.lubuntu,zorin,and of course kali or even more in a partition so when the PC starts you can choose which one to use,for what ever it is you are wanting to do.

The Usb way is also good as its run as a virtual machine and runs live and leaves no footprint.And is totally annoymous,but you can carry a Usb stick anywhere and plug it into many devices including say a friends pc OR tablet etc.Those can be purchased on Ebay for less than 30 quid,most are a few quid but the high end kali types along with a os of your choice are around the 30 quid mark because they come ready to go maybe one update depends how old the sticks are,plus they usually have 1,300 tools with them,hence the price,kali also does a light version at a few MBs not Gigabytes ! so basic then add as you wish,all these tools that are available in kali can be fetched by APT IN ANY LINUX DIST so if ya using mint or ubuntu and want to add some security tools from kali that is no problem.
One more thing if you were to run a security suite on Linux after say a day of use,the readings would say that your pc is infected to high heaven with viruses and malware,and it will be full of the stuff,hard luck to the coders as not s single script will harm a LINUX dist,not one ! so it is the safest way to surf and most effective way to run a pc/tv/cell phone/sat nav ever,and the tools in the dist do exactly what they say and are supposed to do unlike any thing windows has.The command line is like a magic wand in Linux pc world,if windows was to have this tool working as it should be then they too would be up there with Linux but it doesnt-the command line (terminal).

So there we have it,two choices waste good money or bring the old dog back to life and any other pc new or old will work as a pc should do.Forgot to mention that they all have libre thats like office and such and way better,and free,recently the italian gov replaced their systems with libre and saved 225 mill per year.Also with most Linux dists if you press Prt Sc SyS Rq near the F numbers on the key pad/board it will either screenshot automatically or if need be record all on one press of a key stroke,that is built in to all of them nearly,they wont ever be any need for downloads,well odd rare ones i suppose if you prefer the comfort of and interface as to using a command prompt (terminal) . in the terminal you can track a lost phone,track where the missus is and if you think she was playing away divert all her texts and emails to your phone as well,also very good for knowing what the kids are up too.But above all you can tighten your security to the very very maximum.Theys a million things a person can do with Linux some are legal some aint so be carefull what you use and read first any disclaimers as kali tools most of them can be doubled up into prime hacking tools,but the best ever tools for testing your own networks/home pcs/phones etc.
 
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What pc well what have you got now and why is it not booting up? is it windows or mac? windows?????? yes? So either format the whole PC and re install windows that should be enough to do it IF all the hardware is working,yer may have sticky ram in which case a swap of ram will be enough to sort it out.
If it is just all clogged up with spam and malware which windows always attarcts,a formay and re-install will be enough.
Now if the pc is old like the one i am using now a sony vaio win 7 ! i can tell yer a way to make it like new and you will never ever get a virus in a million years-how? go onto Linux site and download a free copy of a very geeky operating system,they is so many dists - dists are distributions to suit any sort of need and they are all free,they are called open susse os systems,so for a six year old pc that has had it or yer think it has had its days,i rec Linux mint,now if yer unsure how to burn to disk and verify iso i can help as im studying all this at college,mint looks like windows in the layout but is far superior,let me explain one or two things,windows is capped so you become reliant upon it,apps are a total killer and so to is malware,that 9 times out of ten is the cause along with a shop bought pc that has all its setting at default so a doctor a scientist or surfer can use as soon as its is powered up.
Back to dists,linux mint cinnamon desktop that is the one that looks like windows layout,or you could opt for unbuntu they all part of the same family,yer can even write code and make ya own custom os that will hammer the living daylight out of windows.So mint and ubuntu differences well ubuntu is deb based and i think mint is unix might be wrong but,yer can also get light versions/ what are them? well mint is a few gig in size on a dvd )bootable or VM) yer could run it all from a usb stick and carry the stick and use in any pc even a mates pc your os will show up,so lite systems well most are in gigabytes how ever yer can get stripped down types,now if ya only using the net for emails and surfing salmon fishing forums ebay etc faceboom a lite version will make that old pc seem as though its power by anti matter from a alien planet yes that fast....light versions are in Mbytes only like windows 98,so if yer dont use a fax machine thats ok cos it comes with nothing to run one but if ya do simply install a one.

downloading with linux.nah it dont happen everything is done from the command line for example
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so for an update type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install && upgrade that will update and upgrade everything even the os if need be but to that type sudo apt-get dist upgarde and that will also upgrade the full thing...many things can be done from here

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so right click the google link and open,not sure how it opens from here but it always opens faster than a broser on the desktop.

some types of linux come with tools some dont,i started out with mint then ubuntu and even tried zorin on a old xp machine and got it running for the old girl next door to where we live.
i also used lubuntu a lite version and thought it was the fastest os i ever used on a laptop.
After that i tried KALI LINUX which is what im usuing now-well this is dads Pc he out so im having MY GO :D

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these are a mere fraction of the tools that come with kali,most well nearly all are pent testing tools,each and every one of them farts the head depo when trying to use and has took me and dad a few months to get our heads around,so the tools what they do? well yer can do anything as the command line in linux is from anotehr far away alien planet !! example,yer can see at anytime who is trying to connect to your pc,you can stop and blcok easily,you can test your network(s) for weaknesses and if any ports can be comprimised-all windows are targets by the way each and every one of them,i reckon that a person gets hacked at least once a week over the yr unknowingly of course.
You can tarck any person you like with permision of course,yer can set up a geo ip tracker and see where your kids are at any given time via a small online map with co-ordinates etc yer can ever track any cell phone and have a message/beep when they are in range of yor device,handy for the private investigator,you will be able to detect spam in online pics,this is how the kine your data and how men seem to get men things in the spam box and women get offered women things ever wondered how this is done? well they hide a script inside a jpeg or any other image even a email,the second its opened or viewed theynhave your IP address and sometimes mac address,thats it that all they need from them two adds they can scan the network within 27 seconds using them details and get back ;your name address,pc user name,browsing hsitory,emails,tel numbers,geo location (house address come up also) if you have open ports,if you are firewalled which to be very honest makes no difference as any one at any time can enter a pc for data mining like this,but with these glitches that then opens the door for the hacker.
Me and dad never use virus dectection as they isnt any for linux only windows,as for fire wall well if any one wants to be in they can do so at any time with out us knowing unless we monitor,so whats the point,we dont get malware as all that is written for windows by mostly linux users.
So kali is a pent test system a white hat hacking system but in any oes hands can be ablack hat hacking platform.But that is down to the indeviduel person...not the actions of the system.
marks out of ten 20!!! that good any of the dists,start with Linux MInt bring that old pc back to oife and rid your self once and for all from the TRAINING shoes of windows.
After using this once you get used to the layout i promise you will never ever turn back.
I mined 13 ethrium coins in 90 minutes using kali linux,not recomended for new user as all your ports are open in root mode,thats simialr to admin mode in windows,but way better,so in the mining forums i was reading post which went like this " i mined one coin in 48 hours,some one else mined one in 36 hours ooowww but 13 in 90 minutes all worth ?? well free money is always good took 3 days fro the confrimation email to get back then coped the code to cyrpto wallet then sold them ended up in the end with $368 USA -in less than a week,best thing is we didnt even know we had mined anything until dad was reading through emails....

But for best ever security and never ever any viruses or malware kali linux for me is amazing.
Now one more thing the idea of swapping is daunting so buy a disk from ebay linux mint start with that,now if ya want you can do this,get yer old pc to boot from cd/dvd rom not hdd (hardrive or usb) theys a way for usb ill expalin in a minute,boot from dvd drive,so get the old battle axe to eventually start,put the cd/dvd in the drive,yer going to wait for ages mind,sorry do this before yer set the dvd drive to first boot so swuitch on as normal chuck the disk in then wait a good few minutes mu guess is that yerl be waiting ahile with a clogged pc,then it will look like linux when this happens you have two choices either boot from desktop or install there and then,you WILL get the option to run with windows its ok but please dont as in the end it will buckle,so you have two choice two os on one drive but only ever install linux by it self.
now yer can also boot from start up so when it starts you will get the black screen with white writing that looks like its from the 80s,thats better in a way so install from here,it will ask the normal questions country ling etc time zones,also click the update now button and let it do its thing,once yer done say 30 mins if that remoive the dsik reboot and job done then use duckduckgo.co never google that tarcks and sends you unwanted stuff.ask duck duck go which is similar to google with out the spying search 20 things to do after linux mint.kali.ubuntu/zorin what ever,it will guide you easily and if you get stuck ask me and ill be happy to help.
none of the versions come with beach bit you will have to install that your self so make that your very first install bleach bit...as used by hillary clinton-says that on the page,with this script you should never ever have a bad pc it can be set to auto clean when shutdown and cleans as its getting used its free so hillary was well ripped off when she erased them emails :eek:
In Kali some of the actions of the software may be ilegal if you execute them with out permision of the website owner or personal user on pc oor device thathas ip address or mac addresses.
So when dad goes fishing with out me and if he says he just going local,i can track his where abouts,for his safety as he getting on a bit now.Via his mobile fone.;) that can be done with anyone as long as you have their phone number or email add (IP ADDRESS)
All this can be done with windows but its a pure pain in the backside as the system is rubbish.
Deep wen is known for being slow as a gang of snails in a hurry..but with kali Tor browser works as fast or faster than windows browser,other words it works fine for unindexed searching and onion sites.

If you do decideto try linux to bring the old pc back to life and give it the respect it deserves,and you come accross hurdles PM me :thumb:

PS me and dad well dad mostly are in the process of making our own custom os system-so when its done we could send you a version of it of you like and you can even send it to linux direct to get them to check for hacks or fixes..
Hi Junior 2001,Sorry I missed that could you repeat please ??:lol:
 

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Very interesting post !!?? Reminded me of one of Taddy's posts for some reason. If I ever suffer from insomnia I will read that again.
If you just want to browse the internet get an android tablet.
Far better than any Microsoft sh * te.
Don't get a Microsoft Surface tablet they are just rubbish.
Speaking from experience.
 

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C'mon guys be kind to JA 2001. After all he was only trying to help. Your talents are wasted on here JA 2001:thumb:
Linux Mint.......Never heard of it but will check it out with my nephew who is a complete computer g:eek:
 

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W10 is a downgrade on W7 ime.

As for PCs, any low end PC is fine for 99.9% of the population.

Stick with what you've got, if you only browse it's all you need. Save your money for a new fishing rod which you definitely do need.

Sound advice - I do NEED another rod oddly enough! Thanks.
 

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Very interesting post !!?? Reminded me of one of Taddy's posts for some reason. If I ever suffer from insomnia I will read that again.
If you just want to browse the internet get an android tablet.
Far better than any Microsoft sh * te.
Don't get a Microsoft Surface tablet they are just rubbish.
Speaking from experience.


Totally agree as windows is the problem,not sure which tablet you mean but if it isn't windows or Mac well im certain it will be a Linux dist,even tablets and mobile phones that use Linux can perform all the operations if need be.
Windows does and will suck everyone in and make microsoft act like the internet doctor when things go wrong.So if buying a shop bought ready to go no matter your profession PC with a loads of Apps that are designed for one purpose and that is to eventually breakdown and require some sort of upgrade be it the soft ware or hardware.
I have yet to see a person who is able to have windows running at a very low level,meaning when it runs its running zillions of things that no one in the normal household will ever need,all this slows down and most Pcs come with them free apps that the man in currys or Pc world tells you about-oooowwww Norton internet security for free eee isnt that good ? actually no as it is apps that are the main cause of slow pcs and tablets,again windows-!The Quieter You Become The More You Are Able To Hear" impossible with windows.
All i was saying is that a person instead of shelling out money can bring back to life any old PC even win XP types.And have a blisteringly fast PC at their disposal,for what £0.99p ! or free from the linux website,surely that has to better than buying a new pc.The chances area they isnt a thing wrong any way with the said PC that is running slow-quick fix is to format then reinstall windows -job done :thumb: but in the end you WILL end up with similar problems due to the way windows is designed.Windows Pcs always hit brick walls each and everytime,i am giving you a way to use the internet to its maximum and get the best out of computing with out problems.And whilst doing so using this OS you will now be able to do PC things what you imagined a PC too do.The reasons we don't hear much of linux is that back in the day it was a nightmare as far as easy use was concerned,plus back then they was no windows PCs that could load linux which meant it was a expensive way to get online and people will go for the easier and cheaper option because their friends said so or that man in currys.

sounds like Taddy? well he is my dad :thumb: and he is the PC expert in our house,he is teaching me everything he knows about PCs and how they work and run software,plus im at college learning coding and networking.


PS Once you start to use linux you can do things like find a persons details in less than 6 seconds from a mobile phone number or web url/email address,that is really hard to do in windows unless you use a app of course and the idea is to get away from that sort of thing.You can use a mobile phone too remotely access a home pc from anywhere in the uk.You will be able to see all traffic coming to your PC and will have the ability to dissconect anyone at any time you choose,and once sussed who it is you can then block it forever from accessing your PC.Remotely move cameras if you say had a buissnes and wanted to keep an eye on the workers whilst you were away,receive messages and emails from say your kids mobile phones,able to access web cams whilst out the house to see what the kids are really up too or the wife ! not bad really for a quid off ebay.
 
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