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    Seatrout tend to do the thing that you are least expecting i rekon, from charging straight at you and slack lining or swimming through your legs or behind you during the fight. Plus if you get one that likes to cartwheel its great fun if well hooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis.Chessman View Post
    Hi, Ard. UK sea trout fishing times tend to vary by region. In the Hebs & NW Scotland they're take readily during the day on rivers and lochs. In fact, I never did catch one at night here in the days when I tried - not saying it isn't done though!
    In the Borders, on the Annan, it was night time fishing and largely the same on the Spey.
    Night fishing for sea trout is a wee bit scary and can be all the more exciting for that. Your hearing becomes more acute in the dark and the sound of a large fish splashily rising further down your pool really gets the adrenaline going. Then, if Fortune smiles, the sudden, hard, jolting take, often as you're lifting into a new cast, will send an electric shock zapping through your body.
    Pound for pound, I've found sea trout far more exciting, energetic, acrobatic and harder fighting than A. salmon. One S. Uist writer/angler recorded a 5 lb fish jumping over 20 times!

    Just make sure you've waded the river earlier in the day and plot your ins and outs before you step in. Take a torch but keep the light of the water as much as you can. Wear a life jacket, carry a whistle. Leave the bear spray and Magnum at home, we sorted out our bear problem a while back.
    Very well put. Further south we fish at night.

    Just to note, in Argentina night fishing for sea trout is illegal.

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    Ard,

    Without doubt, go night fishing for Sea Trout if you can. You’ll experience the very pinnacle of our Fly Fishing sport here in the U.K. & Ireland. There simply isn’t any thing like it anywhere else on these shores. It may involve a bit of a day time recce without fishing and definitely going with someone who knows the river intimately but it will be worth it when you get that electric shock up the line into your hand in the dead of night.

    If you have time before you come over here, I’d highly recommend you read “Sea Trout” by Steffan Jones or the same titled book by Hugh Faulkus. Both of these are very quick easy reads with plenty of info and patterns to copy. You’d probably get through 1 on the flight over truth be told.

    But in a nutshell Sea trout fishing, as explained already, is split into a few distinct areas. Day & Night Fishing. Fresh water or Salt Water.

    Productive day fishing is usually under the same conditions that productive fishing happens everywhere for salmonoids here. Ergo, the days when you have Fresh water running off, dull over head conditions with high clouds and a good warm breeze etc. You should find Sea trout happy to take your fly or lures just as salmon will in the throats necks and tails of pools, on a lough or still pool with a good ruffled surface.

    Night fishing generally happens when the river is too low and or the over head conditions just don’t suit productive day time fishing with fish potted up and not really moving from their lies, so we wait for the cover of darkness for the fish to be become active and confident and we can fish through the main holding areas without disturbing them too much.

    Salt water fishing is mainly in estuaries and is more depending on tides than the weather. Good fishing days are good fishing days regardless yes but Bright days that would be a loss on the river could be very productive if you find a feeding school in a bay along the coast.



    Fly fishing can produce day and night but in the dark of night, think increasing size profile and reflecting light rather than worrying about different colours as the light goes and imitating small bait fish when fishing in the salt. Although slim flashy profiles certainly work in rivers too. Spinning and bait fishing are both methods employed during the day here. If allowed at all.

    As for what size to fish:

    Normal – Low Water Day (Trout Hooks)
    16 14 12 10

    Night (Trout Hooks)
    10 8 6 LongShank 8 & 6 and up to 2 inch tubes

    High Water (Single Salmon Hooks)
    Day
    10 8 6 ¾ inch tubes up to 2 inch tubes

    Top 5 Patterns
    Bloody Alexandra
    Stoats Tail
    Dark mackerel
    Black Pennel
    The Medicine


    Most rivers will have their local favourites, so best to check what patterns and sizes you’ll need but generally speaking, having a few off that list in sizes to suit water conditions day or night should see you connect with a White or 3. They do tend to be freer takers when in the mood than their cousin Salar

    P.S. if I remember when topping up my own box before June, I’ll run off a few extra for you and send them for you to collect this side of the pond.
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    Thanks to all of you

    I've some printed maps at my disposal and Kyle of Sutherland seems to be within my travels as I drift southward. Liek your sea trout I'm sure our steelhead could be caught on a dark September overnight but where would be the fun I must wonder. I suppose I'll do the twilight fishing as it will be nothing new.

    When I work guiding here in June our fishing opens at 6 AM and closes at 11 PM and thus I'm accustomed to odd hours and long days on the water. The state stopped night fishing in order to end the practice of people waiting until 9 or 10 PM to start a trip and so enable them to take 2 days limit of salmon in one single outing.

    That loophole in the law combined with the huge increase in both resident population and non resident anglers all bent on taking fish is partially to blame for our current crisis of return numbers.

    I would like to add that although I have worked for a great number of flt fishers casting for salmon & trout not a single one ever suggested taking a fish! Their interest was in how many they might catch not in the shipping costs for frozen salmon..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardyreels View Post
    Hello Everyone,

    I have a friend who wants to take me Sea Trout fishing when I'm in the UK. Sounds great except the part where he says we'll start around 10:00 PM take a break around 2 and then fish until dawn.........

    When I lived in the US state of Pennsylvania there were many venue where the chance to catch truly large brown trout existed by doing what they called "Night Fishing". Sounded good to me, 10 pound trout on a fly, what's not to like right?

    What wasn't to like was that aside from using a battery lamp I could hardly see a damm thing! I did catch a few decent fish but even that seemed diminished because you could only see them under the glare of the light. You had to become familiar with the bottom as well as the seams & pockets where you needed to cast during daylight and then cast blindly to those spots.

    And so I ask, is there no chance one of these UK sea trout will take a fly by the light of day?
    Whereabouts will the fishing be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jockiescott View Post

    He then had another list of "Day only flies" which included patterns like "Greenwells Glory" and "Fiery Brown".
    Havent targeted sea trout for a while though will hedge my bets with fly choice when fishing for browns or salmon, especially around dusk.
    All my recent sea trout have been taken during the day on the Welsh Dee or Nith.
    A greenwells spider has accounted for quite a few of them.
    A black pennell and butcher, all on a size 12, most of the rest.
    When knowing seatrout are about and salmon fishing, a silver stoat on a 2 fly cast is my "hedging my bets" fly of choice.
    My nith fish have come either with water on and colour in the water or within 24 hours of the colour clearing.
    The Dee fish have come in clear water on tree lined stretches on dusk.
    I'm not suggesting these are the methods you should employ, just supporting the views that seatrout are catchable during daylight hours.
    I think I've got this work life balance thingy right.

    That is to say I spend more time in work thinking about fishing than I spend fishing and thinking about work!

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    Sea trout are often caught during the day in dropping floods, often as "by-catch" when targeting salmon.

    For a true experience of sea trout fishing, you need to do the night fishing.
    Try not to think of it as fishing with reduced sensory perception (Jockiescott) as it is anything but.
    On even the very darkest nights you can see something. However, every other sense is heightened to the max. If I finish 1-2pm, often I can't get to sleep when I get home because my senses have been working overload and my brain is buzzing. Night fishing is all about immersing yourself in the very different environment and adapting what you are doing. If you think of it as fishing blind you are missing out on one helluva experience.
    There is also that elusive sense of "knowing" when a fish is going to take which I think I've experienced once or twice but can't be sure.
    Then there are the nights when the clouds clear, the air is still and you marvel at the reflection of the cosmos on the water in front of you.....just as a big sea trout tries to rip your shoulder from your torso and take your arm along with your rod, line, fly etc back to sea. Ok, I exaggerate just a little, your arm is more likely to part at the elbow joint.

    There is a little gem of a River in the north east of England called the River Wear. Night fishing is very popular and there are some great, easy to fish pools to fish at night with every chance of catching a fish. Some pools you will have company and most are more than willing to share tips to visitors. I can hook you up with contacts if you like or you can fish with me and/or one or two others on the forum.

    Enjoy your trip and my last bit of advice is to make sure you have a really good translation app on your phone. The vast majority over here don't speak English like you see on the TV and the accent may change significantly within just 20-50 miles;-)

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    I'm studying a translator Walleye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardyreels View Post
    I'm studying a translator Walleye
    25 years I've been travelling to the US and working every day with US guys and I have modified my accent quite a bit through necessity. Some get it OK, others just stare blankly even with my very best "Geordie posh". :-)

    The first couple of years working in Alabama was interesting. Both sides had to adapt. You should have seen my face when I was told I could go to the loo on the "sack o' flour".

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    I fish with Walleye & we’ve had some fantastic nights out fishing for sea trout. They’re just something else & the Wear has a fantastic stamp of fish. Which tends to be a lot bigger than elsewhere.

    I hope you do give it ago as I really think you’d be missing out on a great experience.


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