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  1. #21
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    Thanks for the reply BalticFlyFisher. Find it a little strange that you should anchor cast when there is room behind for overhead cast, especially in the sea. I use my switch rod in the sea/surf for bass and the thought of trying to create an anchor in the surf/swell and compete with wind would be beyond me. Much prefer to strip back the line and a couple of false casts to get the head out then whooosh. Still...each to their own and you are probably a far better Spey/anchor caster than I could ever hope to be.

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    Most switch rods lack the body to set a hook in a pike's mouth. Pike have a massive amount of teeth that hold the fly extremely well. You need a rod that can set the hook. 9 ft, #9 fast action doe, she job. Switch rods are too long and do no have the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snap t View Post
    Most switch rods lack the body to set a hook in a pike's mouth. Pike have a massive amount of teeth that hold the fly extremely well. You need a rod that can set the hook. 9 ft, #9 fast action doe, she job. Switch rods are too long and do no have the body.
    Have you tried a switch rod for pike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snap t View Post
    Most switch rods lack the body to set a hook in a pike's mouth. Pike have a massive amount of teeth that hold the fly extremely well. You need a rod that can set the hook. 9 ft, #9 fast action doe, she job. Switch rods are too long and do no have the body.
    Codswallop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snap t View Post
    Most switch rods lack the body to set a hook in a pike's mouth. Pike have a massive amount of teeth that hold the fly extremely well. You need a rod that can set the hook. 9 ft, #9 fast action doe, she job. Switch rods are too long and do no have the body.
    The switch rods I use have more than enough "welly" to set a [barbless (of course) ] hook in a Pikes mouth.

    I have caught dozens and dozens of Pike on a switch rod and based on my observations, I have found that whilst using a sub-surface fly for Pike its not really necessary to do much more than tightening the line and "leaning back" into the fish to hook it. However fishing with surface flies (e.g gurglers) certainly does require an active strike. I am convinced that the Pike sometimes miss surface flies; a classical "rod" strike moves the fly a few feet and more than likeley out of the taking range, a strip strike moves it just a few cm's and the fish will probably have another go.

    Summing up if you are concerned that a switch rod might not have enough back-bone to set a hook in a Pikes mouth I suggest you re-program your muscle memory and start using a strip strike, which is imho a much better option than a rod strike.
    get out there ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by spruce View Post
    Thanks for the reply BalticFlyFisher. Find it a little strange that you should anchor cast when there is room behind for overhead cast, especially in the sea. I use my switch rod in the sea/surf for bass and the thought of trying to create an anchor in the surf/swell and compete with wind would be beyond me. Much prefer to strip back the line and a couple of false casts to get the head out then whooosh. Still...each to their own and you are probably a far better Spey/anchor caster than I could ever hope to be.
    Spruce - yes it is strange and you are right it is probably much easier to cast 2hand overhead, but I personally don't use a switch or DH to cast overhead (only if I loose synch whilst fishing at night) with; I really enjoy spey casting with switches, DH and 1handers but if I want to cast overhead then I use a 1hander not a switch or 2hander.
    get out there ....

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    Spruce whereabouts are you, i have one if you wanted to try it out

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    I switched to double handers for pike a few years ago, currently a 13ft 9/10 and Skagit head. It is just so much easier to cast any size of fly any distance.

    My former 10ft Sparton Imperator and the 12 and 13 lines is now only used for saltwater fishing. It was the best I had tried - better even that the Hardy Ad Swier Pike rod - but I'd never go back.

    I'll add that my pike fishing is on lochs and the ability to cast a long way with big flies can be important. 8 weights and 3 or 4 inch flies is a nice way to fish but not always the most successful for my fishing.

  9. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrw35 View Post
    Have you tried a switch rod for pike?
    I did, and stopped using it when a massive pike opened his mouth close to landing and the fly just dropped out. I had stripped / strike and convinced that I set the hook. Barbless of course ( Ad Swier) could be the rod, I used the guideline 7/8. Never had a problem with the smaller pike. However...although in fairness maybe this could have happened with any rod

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    To my knowledge it works quite well. Best send a pm to Stuart (Baltic Fly Fisher ) He is a specialist on the subject.
    Icelander05

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