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    Cool Lost at sea

    http://www.atlanticsalmonlostatsea.net/contact-us.htm
    Lost at Sea takes the viewer on an epic journey through the oceanic kingdom of the Atlantic Salmon -the king of fish - in an attempt to unravel the mystery of their life at sea. Populations of salmon are plummeting to critical levels, even going extinct in some southern rivers. Despite conservation efforts worldwide, populations continue to fall. The cause is mortality at sea. For the very first time, using the latest DNA technology, scientists are able to track the salmon from the rivers, through the estuaries and into the vast North Atlantic and back again in hopes of finding an answer before it is too late. This film tells the most complete story of the life of Atlantic salmon - something not possible before.

    Filmed in visually stunning high definition video, Lost at Sea takes us from the rivers of Europe and North America to the vast waters of the North Atlantic and the rich feeding grounds around Greenland. Presented as a mystery, the viewer is on board the Irish research vessel, the Celtic Explorer, as we head north to follow the salmon on their migration towards the arctic and experience the exciting discoveries being unraveled at sea. Our lead investigator is Prof. Ken Whelan: a dynamic Irishman, scientist and passionate angler, he has studied salmon in rivers around the world. Ken helped launch the international project SALSEA (salmon at sea), an urgent investigation into the life of salmon at sea. It is the largest and most complex Atlantic salmon research programme ever undertaken. This is one of several carefully targeted expeditions to map the salmon distribution and conditions in the ocean on a particular migration path where the salmon are known to travel. On board, scientists work in the floating crime lab searching for an answer as samples from the ocean are collected during the expedition.

    The Science
    http://www.atlanticsalmonlostatsea.net/the-science.htm

    Latest News
    http://www.atlanticsalmonlostatsea.net/index.htm


    See our trailer - Wow..........

    http://www.atlanticsalmonlostatsea.net/los-promo.html

    One week filming on the Miramichi River, Canada completed. Week of September 12th.

    One week filming on the Cascapedia River, Canada complete. Week of Sept 5th.

    Two week filming on the Cascapedia River completed. June 2010.

    Scouting trip to Kylemore Abbey fishery completed April 2010.

    Scouting trips to river locations in Norway, Scotland and Ireland completed during summer/fall 2009.

    Initial filming at sea on the SALSEA-Merge expedition of the RV Celtic Explorer completed during 10 days in June 2009.

    Coming Activities

    December 2010 - filming of salmon spawning in Burrishoole, Ireland.

    Spring 2011 - scouting trip to Iceland.

    April 2011 - filming smolt run at Burrishoole, Ireland.

    May 2011 - filming of postsmolts in sea lochs/fjords, Norway.

    Summer 2011 - filming in Iceland & Greenland: living planet, glaciars, salmon feeding grounds, ocean life.

    Ireland & Scotland: rivers and genetic story of salmon.
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    Cant wait to see this..they also have a facebook page with some nice pics from Kylemore, Galway weir, Delphi and various rivers in scotland,norway, canada etc..

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Atlant...93518?v=photos

    let me know if the link doesn't work to ye and ill get the pics up here..
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    Fantastic !!! And finally something that is directly addressing the most devastating cause of declining salmon in our rivers. What I especially like with this ( having only seen the trailer ) is that there is an overall conservation ' feel ' to it. It seems to address the salmon as a fellow ' member ' of our planet and worth preserving as such and not as some sort of resource that can be used/exploited.
    I hope this continues through the full length production as it will appeal to a far bigger audience and therefore likely gain more support on a national as well as international level. Us as anglers can then ( hopefully ) be one of the beneficiaries down the road should the High Seas deterioration of the salmon be identified and corrected.
    Looking at the sponsors however I would have expected to see some serious funding coming from the EU. Maybe some of this is EU money – I am not sure about that so won’t comment further.

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    Thanks for the heads-up Salmo Salar.

    Do you have any idea when the film will eventually be released, I see they're continuing filming through this summer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crispin View Post
    Thanks for the heads-up Salmo Salar.

    Do you have any idea when the film will eventually be released, I see they're continuing filming through this summer?
    Hi Crispin - tight lines big quota for you in Galway this year

    Filming will conclude following "The Summit"
    http://www.nasco.int/sas/salmonsummit.htm

    "NASCO and ICES announce a major international symposium, 'Salmon at Sea: Scientific Advances and their Implications for Management', to be held at L'Aquarium, La Rochelle, France, during 11-13 October 2011".
    As the blurb goes " you will not want to miss this Salmon Summit"

    Registration (Step 1)
    The registration fee is £300 (£350 after 28 February 2011). A reduced rate of £200 will be offered for students (limited number of places). Numbers will be limited to a maximum of 130 participants. The fee will cover, inter alia, attendance at the meeting itself, tea and coffee, conference dinner and a copy of the ICES Journal of Marine Science devoted to the symposium papers. It will also include a separate report on the management implications of the research presented at the symposium. There will be a charge of £40 for accompanying persons.

    In answer to FlySwinger funding is provided by.......
    http://www.nasco.int/sas/salseamerge.htm
    "SALSEA-Merge is a an ambitious, three year, €5.5 million scientific project to investigate the migration and distribution of salmon in the North-East Atlantic. The project is supported by the European Commission under the 7th Framework Programme for Research and Technological development. Funding is also being provided by the Partner organisations, the Total Foundation and the Atlantic Salmon Trust. SALSEA-Merge was officially launched on the 16 May 2008 in Killybegs, Ireland".

    and yes FlySwinger there is "a real desire to know" what fate lies ahead for "The King of Fish"
    http://www.atlanticsalmonlostatsea.net/los-promo.html
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    so how will we get our hands on the video when its completed?


    does the two boats work side by side at sea,as one of them is quite larger than the other,seen them many of times docked in galway,always want to take a ramble around the boat,

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    In answer to FlySwinger funding is provided by.......
    http://www.nasco.int/sas/salseamerge.htm
    "SALSEA-Merge is a an ambitious, three year, €5.5 million scientific project to investigate the migration and distribution of salmon in the North-East Atlantic. The project is supported by the European Commission under the 7th Framework Programme for Research and Technological development. Funding is also being provided by the Partner organisations, the Total Foundation and the Atlantic Salmon Trust. SALSEA-Merge was officially launched on the 16 May 2008 in Killybegs, Ireland".

    and yes FlySwinger there is "a real desire to know" what fate lies ahead for "The King of Fish"
    http://www.atlanticsalmonlostatsea.net/los-promo.html[/QUOTE]

    Many thanks for the info on the funding, La Rochelle. That makes me feel a lot better that significant funds are coming out of the EU AND for a very worthwhile project. It's refreshing to see a full hands on approach and monies spent on actual exploration rather than it being wasted on devising ways to prove the exact extent of the problem. This project is going to the very heart of the matter and involves getting ones hands dirty in a full on assault of the biggest problems salmon are facing. Let's hope that the marketing/promotional people can get the job done and the funds continue to flow.

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    Cool The Surveys

    Super job Finperfect - good to see Nigel and Dave on film
    Going to sea............

    Here are some of the results up for discussion in France
    http://www.nasco.int/sas/salseamerge_marine.htm
    The overall objective of SALSEA-Merge is, by merging genetic and ecological investigations, to advance understanding of stock specific migration and distribution patterns and overall ecology of the marine life of Atlantic salmon and gain an insight into the factors, resulting in recent significant increases in marine mortality.
    http://www.nasco.int/sas/pdf/salsea/Irish_survey_08.pdf



    2009
    http://www.nasco.int/sas/pdf/salsea/...ort%202009.pdf
    The RV Celtic Explorer carried out the second leg of the research survey 42 days after the conclusion of the RV Celtic Voyager survey. The RV Celtic Explorer left from Killybegs in
    Donegal on the afternoon of the 23 June in calm sea conditions. The proposed sampling area was a three day full steam North of Donegal, 825 nautical miles. The first towing position was reached in the early hours of the morning of 26 June.
    In total, 15 trawls were carried out with 4 trawls on the 26 June, 4 trawls on the 27 June, 4 trawls on the 28 June and the final 3 trawls on the 29 June. This took place over a combined sampling period of 52.3 hours and over a total trawling distance of 247 nautical miles. The average towing speed was at 5.1 knots at an average trawling time of 3.48 hours. All 15 trawls contained post-smolts, with individual hauls ranging from 1 to 69 post-smolts. In total, 455 post-smolts were caught, an average of 30.33 per trawl. Of these, 4 were tagged with coded wire tags (CWTs) with 1 adipose fin clipped fish also taken. The mean fork length of the 455 salmon post-smolts was 21.3cm, the mean weight 94.39g and the mean condition factor was 0.95.



    check out all the surveys, the plans, the theories, the scientists, and above all Salmo salar - the king of fish!
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    The ratio of fish leaving the rivers to those returning has declined dramatically in recent years indicating a high mortality of the salmon at sea. In an effort to learn more about these post-smolt fish, the SALSEA project was created to learn about the oceanic migration of the salmon. Deirdre asked me to come along on one of the SALSEA expeditions to film and assist in the early stages of the film. Being the avid fisherman that I am and of course, my desire to know all there is to know about every fish in the sea, led me to participate on this SALSEA expedition aboard the RV Celtic Explorer into the Norwegian Sea to collect and sample post-smolt Atlantic Salmon on their way to their feeding grounds to the North.

    I am very excited to be on this voyage and a part of this project as it is one of the first of its kind to do a comprehensive study of salmon at sea. We will be fishing for the salmon with surface trawls (large nets dragged right at the surface) because the post-smolt salmon, fish just leaving the rivers, are found in only the surface waters no deeper than 3m. Because the scientists are using genetic markers to identify the fish, every fish captured becomes useful as opposed to only tagged fish in the past. There are 1360 known salmon rivers in Europe and many of the highly productive rivers have been “genetically mapped” so that the fish caught in the ocean can be identified to their natal river.

    We are heading north to an area west of the Voering Plateau where the salmon funnel into the Barents and Greenland Seas. This “salmon pass” is our target area in our quest to document the salmon migration. In its second year, the SALSEA project will attempt to answer questions of where the salmon go when they leave the rivers and why they are not returning.

    Day 1- Leaving the Dock
    After a day of running around Killybegs getting our final medical certificates needed to go on the voyage, we were back on the ship and ready to set sail for the Norwegian Sea.

    Find out about the voyage trawl by trawl as 24hour sunshine beckons and the King of fish yields its secrets
    http://arcticsalmon.globaloceanexploration.com/


    or
    http://www.atlanticsalmontrust.org/r...a-project.html

    for skinny salmon check..........
    "By looking at nitrogen and carbon stable isotopes in the white muscle, red muscle and liver of returning one seawinter fish, and by relating these values to the condition of the fish, we learn about how the nutritional state of the fish has changed during the last parts of its marine migration back to Scotland. We have found that fish in poor condition have particularly high ratios of nitrogen stable isotope values in their livers, which may be indicative of fish essentially catabolising (i.e. burning) their own tissues in order to maintain metabolism. That is, they appear to have been severely compromised by prey availability."

    http://www.atlanticsalmontrust.org/r...mon-story.html
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    Exciting times ahead!! Enjoy the voyage, I'll be keeping an eye out

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