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    Default A Question About Scottish River Categorisation & Conservation Limits.

    I understand the different categories for individual Scottish rivers are based on their conservation limit attainment. A similar system pertains in Ireland. However in Ireland a number of rivers have a separate conservation limit for MSW fish and 1SW fish. Are there also separate conservation limits on Scottish rivers for MSW and 1SW fish or are Scottish river CLs based on a single conservation limit for both MSW and 1SW fish?

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    It covers all salmon regardless of age. We do have a no catch for springers on even Cat 1 rivers though, just to muddy the waters a bit. Also different districts also put on they're own rules/guidelines even when a river is Cat 1.

    Furthermore we even have a Cat 1 river that is 100% c & r. many flies, so little time!

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    The Foyle system has carcass tags where two fish can be kept upto 31st May using blue tags and another 20 from June to the end of the season using black tags. There may have been changes to that for this season but this has been the way it was up to last season. The river Finn is 100% C&R as it was deemed not to have met its conservation limit and commercial netting has been suspended on the river Foyle since 2009 as a result.

    It is the Loughs Agency which decide on the conservation measures and have a "rule" that if a rivers counter shows numbers lower than the Conservation limit, that they have set, in any 2 out of 5 consecutive years, then conservation methods will be imposed on that river until numbers increase again.

    The river Mourne has reached its conservation limit in only a handful of the past 10 years but these figures have been used to "show" that fish are bypassing the counter. Rather conveniently. No different conservation methods have been introduced.

    Anyway, whether any of these fish kept are one sea winter, or multi sea winter, is anyone's guess. You kill the fish and tag it just.
    One of the best skills that an angler can ever develop is knowing the difference between passing the time and wasting it!

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    In the Republic of Ireland all fish caught before June 1st are considered springers and after the first of June are considered grilse. Arbitrary calendar dates that donít differentiate between fish of different weight or length. So a 12lbs fish caught on June 1st would be classified as a grilse while a 4lbs fish caught on May 31st would be classified as a springer. Furthermore catch restrictions of 1 spring fish per day up to a maximum of 3 per angler, on spring fish end on May 12th so for almost 3 weeks anglers could theoretically retain 3 spring fish per day. It is interesting that spring fish restrictions in Scotland, i.e, what are considered spring fish, last for 2 months less than in Ireland. Even with later fish run times, the timings canít be that different between the 2 jurisdictions so one has to wonder which categorisation is more accurate?

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