I mentioned on here a couple of months back that I was going to try and get my son and some of his friends interested in fly tying and fishing with what they tied after a while there was enough sorted for a day at the rainbows..the best rod out of them finished with 3 trout..hooked himself on the ****. .his leg ..and his ear..I have since told them that they should take up spinning..but I had a great day and laugh