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    Default Shrimp Should be Encouraged

    Had to post this as I got sick of looking at that "Shrimp Should Be Banned" headline!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluticus View Post
    Had to post this as I got sick of looking at that "Shrimp Should Be Banned" headline!
    Holy crustacean! Right back at ya Batman. Kapow!!!!!

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    But it's self evident...

    Otherwise, how can anyone compare "pre-shrimp/prawn/spinner/worm/selling fish-ban" catches of salmon from the "Good Old Days" (called an "Apple" in stats parlance) with post-ban-all-that catches (an "Orange"), and make any kind of realistic or meaningful comparison or guesstimate of how salmon stocks are performing?

    They can't of course...
    Last edited by seeking; 19-05-2016 at 12:02 PM. Reason: missed the orange...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluticus View Post
    Had to post this as I got sick of looking at that "Shrimp Should Be Banned" headline!
    Exactly,

    It encourages youngsters to the sport by getting them in about salmon instead of just casting..
    Its an ideal way to safely catch fish without deep hooking them if you want to release them.
    Its more effective in canal type waters.

    But on the negative side.

    Its only done by uneducated OIKS.
    You cant sell a new 1000.00 rod to a shrimp fisher eveyr year ( because much as they are uneducated, they arent gullible or pretentious)
    You struggle to charge 500.00 a day for a permit
    There is no money in teaching them to cast.

    Funny that, its only when I type the pros and cons out that its clear the
    pros are fish related and the cons are finance related.

    Yet prawn fishing is bad because they decimate already almost extinct stocks with these fish mongers selling all the fish.

    An angler gets 20 odd fish on Park in a day on the fly. And the man is a classed as a great angler (he is by the way, and nearly as good as his brother).

    A man gets 20 odd on the prawn and he is common oik.

    And all because the shrimp is that easy to use, that its not uncommon for angler to have a fish jump out of the water and land at his feet before he has even put a shrimp on his hook.

    Good morning

    Mows

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    Quote Originally Posted by mows View Post
    Exactly,

    It encourages youngsters to the sport by getting them in about salmon instead of just casting..
    Its an ideal way to safely catch fish without deep hooking them if you want to release them.
    Its more effective in canal type waters.

    But on the negative side.

    Its only done by uneducated OIKS.
    You cant sell a new 1000.00 rod to a shrimp fisher eveyr year ( because much as they are uneducated, they arent gullible or pretentious)
    You struggle to charge 500.00 a day for a permit
    There is no money in teaching them to cast.

    Funny that, its only when I type the pros and cons out that its clear the
    pros are fish related and the cons are finance related.

    Yet prawn fishing is bad because they decimate already almost extinct stocks with these fish mongers selling all the fish.

    An angler gets 20 odd fish on Park in a day on the fly. And the man is a classed as a great angler (he is by the way, and nearly as good as his brother).

    A man gets 20 odd on the prawn and he is common oik.

    And all because the shrimp is that easy to use, that its not uncommon for angler to have a fish jump out of the water and land at his feet before he has even put a shrimp on his hook.

    Good morning

    Mows
    Im told all these chaps do is drive their tatty old ford escort estate cars right up to the edge of the water, open the boot and wave a prawn. The fish just jump straight in to the boot, line themselves up in neat rows before committing suicide. No need for a rod even! Then they drive straight to the fishmonger to sell the fish for booze and gambling money before driving home drunk for a spot of wife beating. No wonder salmon are extinct, it really should be banned.

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    When I worked on the Tay in the 80s/90s the prawn/shrimp was the preferred method on one of the main pools on the beat which was The Church Pool on Edradynate.
    A long,deep,flat pool crying out for a spun or trotted shrimp.
    To be honest it was also my favourite method especially when it was trotted down the bottom of the pool into the fast streamy water that spills out into the fast run.
    11' soft carp rod,centrepin reel,small pike float,a lead bullet for cocking and a pin and treble with a cherry red shrimp attached.
    Pure magic when it all came together and it would more often than not produce a fish when you would have sworn blind that there wasn't a fish within a country mile of that particular pool!!
    Just to add I can smell that smell right now.The shrimps in the bag with the little salt crystals..Great days those
    Last edited by simon grace; 19-05-2016 at 01:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loxie View Post
    Im told all these chaps do is drive their tatty old ford escort estate cars right up to the edge of the water, open the boot and wave a prawn. The fish just jump straight in to the boot, line themselves up in neat rows before committing suicide. No need for a rod even! Then they drive straight to the fishmonger to sell the fish for booze and gambling money before driving home drunk for a spot of wife beating. No wonder salmon are extinct, it really should be banned.
    And this is the kind of thing they leave lying about the beats. Dogs and shrimps shud be banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloatinglineNelly View Post
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    And this is the kind of thing they leave lying about the beats. Dogs and shrimps shud be banned.
    Dogs should be banned?? I'd rather fish with my dogs as companions than some people. Dogs don't complain or want to nick my flies.
    Banning shrimps is a fair argument but banning dogs from the bank is a bit daft. After all if the dogs misbehaving or causing an issue then it's the owners fault not the dogs. In that case then the owner should be banned.
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    Maybe I took that a bit far Simon....should have said people who don't clean up after their dogs should be banned.
    I took this photograph only yesterday.....the culprit actually praised his dog after the deed.
    Lovely little dog,,a wee brown Spaniel.
    Last edited by FloatinglineNelly; 19-05-2016 at 12:21 PM.

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    Just taking a lighthearted look at things...I think shrimp, and worm are great methods and should be allowed, maybe with slight restrictions.
    Banning these methods can only turn people off fishing when we should be encouraging more to take part.

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