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15-12-2008 10:30 PM #81
Allander & upper Kelvin
I've been down to the Allander at Milngavie a few times over the past couple of weeks. I havn't seen a single salmon at the ladder or on the redds at Tesco. Has anyone else been looking and have you seen anything ?
I have also been checking the upper Kelvin for redds/spawning salmon. Absolutely nothing up there also. Both places at this time last year had alot of spawning salmon on the redds, this year, nowt ! I'm hoping some will make an appearance before Christmas.
I fear for the future of the Kelvin. With the free for all that happened this year, especially at the meetings pool of the Kelvin/Allander, things need to change quickly or the good run of fish on this river will be killed off, just as it was beginning to get good, really good.
16-12-2008 08:31 AM #82
A friend took this photo over the weekend.
An 8/9lb diseased hen fish.
The photo was taken at the iron bridge at the start of Mugdock.
16-12-2008 09:01 AM #83
I was at the fish pass at Tesco's last week and there were branches blocking the top of the pass. I'm sure that the fish may have managed through, but the way that the branches aligned at the top would certainly make their passage more difficult. There was a landing net in the water below the fish pass.
I know that this has now been reported to the relevant bodies.
Some years I see more fish than others, but I was surprised not to see the usual numbers of fish jostling for space in the pools below the fish pass. There has certainly been enough water to carry them through.
16-12-2008 09:59 AM #84
Last year I saw a couple of spawners in Mugdock. During the summer there was a tremendous amount of juvenile fish vast number appeared to be salmon parr. I was amazed at how many there were
Hope Lomond just hit a good day last year and some bad ones this year. Certainly doesnt sound good though The temp has been somewhat different and one wonders what difference that has made. Also there was a lack of water through Nov anyway if my memory serves me right. Would that have had a bearing on where/ when fish spawn????
16-12-2008 03:57 PM #85
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lack off fish
agree with fruin usually see plenty off fish up at tesco over 10 trips up there not saw any plus i stay on riverbank near vet school umpteen times since end off season walked the banks no sign off fish unlike other years plus loads off cormorants about
16-12-2008 05:27 PM #86
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16-12-2008 06:08 PM #88
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Its like everything else people will not leave the fish alone to spawn! These fish have been in the lime light for the past few years. So perhaps they have been targeted!!! I don't think there is a bailif force on the river so they are open to anyone with a net, rod or worse!!!
19-12-2008 04:20 PM #89
I'd agree with what has been said, i think one of the main problems is most of the fish caught get killed, from what i've seen at least. Some days where i've passed the meeting pool, i've seen i dont know how many set liners with the worm. The fish make it all the way up the river and then face this challenge!
There really needs to be some sort of baliffs put in place with proper powers, the kelvin in a free for all, and to be honest the running of the river is nothing more than a farce. I'm tempted to go along to the agm and make my opinion heard! The salmon will be wiper out completely within a year or two if things continue the way it is just now.
And other views?
19-12-2008 04:55 PM #90
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I was shown a photogragh just recently of 3 sparkling grilse taken from the Kelvin.To my knowledge no one ever eats the trout in the kelvin so out of curiosity i asked the fellow what his friend had done with them only to be told " oh the same as the troot " the dug gets them. this is the state of play on the " Smelly Kelly " as some folk fondly refer to it.