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    Hi folks and apologies in advance if this should be in the lines forum (I'm new...!) Line stuff is driving me potty, its like a language all to itself! Question for you guys, I have an 11wt Rio Scandi Versitip setup I picked up in Sweden for a song with an intermediate section on the head. I want to purchase a Rio Skagit Max long head in a 700gr (10wt). Will this be ok to use with my current versitips or will I need to purchase more? Theoretically if the 11wt Versitips were slightly too heavy, would lopping a foot off the back of them even it up? I should add, this is to pair with a Hardy Marksman 2 S 14'6 10wt, its solely for throwing heavy flies on fast sinking tips.



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    they will be spot on , enjoy
    When in doubt...exaggerate !!

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    asome would say that your rod is not the best choice for a skagit , take it easy
    When in doubt...exaggerate !!

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    Hi Jimmy,

    Thanks for the input, appreciated. What are the likely rod issues with this line as a matter of interest? This is the recommended line via the Rio Line Selector

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    why would you want a skagit line to use with the versi tips when you have a perfectly good line in the SVT,if using heavier tips ie Tungsten T14 etc then i understand but versi tips
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    Hi Dexter, primarily for ease of use and also out of interest, I'm a newcomer to this faction of the sport. I struggled with the SVT set up on account of the intermediate section in conjunction with the heavy tips, difficult for a beginner to get to grips with that much line being submerged (it came with S3, S6 and an S8) I have another compact scandi set up with a floating head thats much easier to cast with sink tips but its a little light for loading the rod (38-39g inc tip) so should really be changed. I would like to try a Skagit set up, see how much of a difference there is from a casting perspective etc and the question was being primarily aimed at whether I could get away with just purchasing the head or would I need to change the tips also. If there is the ability in a Skagit set up to use heavier tips then thats great, I'm off back to Sweden in June and they may well be needed. I have several days lessons lined up over the next few months with Glenda on the Blackwater and that in conjunction with a pile of practice may well straighten any issues with my Rio SVT set up but I would like to try the Skagit too.

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    You might find the versitips too light with a 700grain skagit and struggle to not rip your anchor. My #9 rod casts a 500 grain inty skagit and t18 tip very easily. Not sure how much the 700grain will be overkill if your rod is a #10??
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    Tips for skagits really can be a minefield , piker 2o above recommends t18 but doesnt say how long a tip he uses , i personally find t18 a horrible tip weight for ease of casting and presentation in the 15ft tip length that i use .
    Try your vesitips and see how you like them , Db has a point though in that the ssvt is an excellent line that will cast heavy flies .
    got to laugh at mc andy liking DB post , the last few months of the season all i saw him fish was a RIO SKAGIT MAX WITH VESILEADERS ON THE END
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petekd View Post
    Hi Dexter, primarily for ease of use and also out of interest, I'm a newcomer to this faction of the sport. I struggled with the SVT set up on account of the intermediate section in conjunction with the heavy tips, difficult for a beginner to get to grips with that much line being submerged (it came with S3, S6 and an S8) I have another compact scandi set up with a floating head thats much easier to cast with sink tips but its a little light for loading the rod (38-39g inc tip) so should really be changed. I would like to try a Skagit set up, see how much of a difference there is from a casting perspective etc and the question was being primarily aimed at whether I could get away with just purchasing the head or would I need to change the tips also. If there is the ability in a Skagit set up to use heavier tips then thats great, I'm off back to Sweden in June and they may well be needed. I have several days lessons lined up over the next few months with Glenda on the Blackwater and that in conjunction with a pile of practice may well straighten any issues with my Rio SVT set up but I would like to try the Skagit too.
    Hi Pete my advice to you like any new comer to speycasting with 2hands would be to stick to a floating head whether it be spey line or shootinghead and use polyleaders to gain some depth when needed in the first year of learning the art,sink lines(heavy sink tips)require a differing technique to that of a floating line,its better to have that learning curve and serve it as an apprenticeship before progressing to sinktips and sinkers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piker20 View Post
    You might find the versitips too light with a 700grain skagit and struggle to not rip your anchor. My #9 rod casts a 500 grain inty skagit and t18 tip very easily. Not sure how much the 700grain will be overkill if your rod is a #10??

    You see, this is where it all gets completely confusing I was only the other day watching a video on here of a lad casting a Shakespeare Oracle Spey, 12' 7-8wt with a 500gr Skagit and Sink tip a country mile (I appreciate this guy is light years away from I in the casting talent stakes!)

    Many thanks for the comments folks, I appreciate the advice.
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