It was also pointed out last night that the RFCA once bought out netting time supported by the clubs, and again not all clubs supported it and getting the money off some others who promised was very difficult. This is the reason it was said last night that we would not be prepared to do it again. I can tell you that the figure of £50 or even £60K to buy off the nets would be no where close to what they would want, more like that each. Our best chance is when we come together with the E.A and RFCA. to discuss and agree a new ten year Net Limitation Order which is due to run out over the next two years.
Angling for salmon is a hobby and has huge tradition yet we have limits imposed on us (rightly so I should add) :confused:
on another note how has the hodder seatrout and salmon fishing been going this year so far, I overheard a gentleman talking to his friends at that lovely hotel that he had lost a grilse and that was a month ago.
Made me wonder as the fish have to come through the ribble
Seasons usually balance themselves out, last year by now our arms were aching from all the casting we did, this season our rods are gathering dust, well on the middle and upper river beats.
Continuing with the netting debate, checking up the new NLO for the Ribble is due in 2017. The negotiations between the E.A. the six netsmen, and the RFCA will probably begin next season, as it takes a long time for the three parties to agree. Believe me its a headache trying to get the three parties to agree. I was part of it last time and I hope with my experience I will be again. You can be assured of one thing the RFCA team will do their best for all anglers in trying to secure the best deal possible. Until then we have to accept that the estuary nets are there but only four of the six working.
One thing we do know, and this is why some anglers would not like to see them removed, is that without them protecting the estuary it would be left wide open for poaching, and it would happen, and I'm informed that its going on now more than we realise but catching them is another matter. So is it a case of the Devil you know is better than the one you don't ??
you may well be right there Fred, with the amount of population growth in the u.k and living costs , and the cuts in all the police/ e.a it would not surprise me one bit that its getting hammered down there , I suppose eyes on the water even if it is the four operating nets men its better then a free fore all.
its a bloody shame,
I have been out of angling politics for many years now, but it seems inconsistent to me that licence-paying rod anglers have catch restrictions (quite rightly) arbitrarily imposed whereas licence-paying netsmen do not.
Let's do some quick sums. The nets declare a combined average of 250 salmon per year. Each wild salmon sold at market will be sold for about £50 to £100 which depends on weight, supply and demand etc. So for arguments sake we will work with the top figure. This means that the total fishery makes £25k per year gross. Split this between the 4 operating nets men or full 6 licences and it equates to £6250 or £4166 each. Out of this they have to pay a licence fee, run a boat and pay tax. So it is fair to say they are not making a living from it and if they are they will be claiming every working tax credit going to make ends meet. I donít think an offer of £10K to £15K each to give up the licence for good is that far off the mark. I was talking to one of the nets men a few years ago and he said that when the RFCA were negotiating buying a set number of tides off them £20k each would have been enough to buy them out. RFCA got stitched up when paying them not to fish the big tides as it turned out that these were the least productive netting times as the nets go clogged with debris so they probably would not have fished anyway.
Like I said in a previous post I would happily give up my 2 fish limit to see the back of the nets that just plunder the stocks and put nothing back in to the system and very little in to the economy.
The argument that they stop or deter illegal netting by being there needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt. they are only allowed to fish June, July and August and are not allowed to fish at weekends. Do they monitor the estuary outside of these times??? Do they hell.
RFCA got stitched up when paying them not to fish the big tides as it turned out that these were the least productive netting times as the nets go clogged with debris so they probably would not have fished anyway.
We were not stitched up, and its insulting to publically say that after the tremendous amount of work the RFCA put in to get the best deal possible, supported may I say by yourself as secretary and our own committee and committees of other clubs at the time. We were ill advised yes and it was not by the netsmen either,
We bought what we were advised to buy. We got the best deal we could for the anglers, and your figures are wrong and misleading and nothing will be done until we negotiate a new NLO through the proper channels. Unfortunately that's how it works.